--- In [email protected], "L B Shriver" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In [email protected], "jyouells2000" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > --- In [email protected], "L B Shriver" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > wrote: > > > > > > --- In [email protected], "jyouells2000" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > wrote: > > > > > > > > --- In [email protected], ultrarishi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > --- In [email protected], "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In [email protected], "L B Shriver" > > > > > > [...] > > > > > > Now it is > > > > > > > difficult to find the faintest shred of evidence that the > > world is > > > > > > being "saved". So the Dream > > > > > > > is Over, and the disappointment for many is huge and painful. > > > > > > > > > > > > I must be truely insane. I find the New and Improved TMO to be a > > > > > > wonderous thing and genuinely have more expectations for it > > than for > > > > > > the TMO of the Merv days. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I don't know. I pretty much prefer the "Merv days". Today, MMY > > and > > > > > the TMO seem more like Jimmy Swaggart and Pat Robertson and Bechtel > > > > > and FoxNews. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I was following LB until he equated disillusionment with the TMO with > > > > disillusionment with 'evil' USA. I think 'evil' USA is actually > > > > another media myth. > > > > > > > > JohnY > > > > > > > @@@@@@@@ > > > > > > Needless to say, I do not expect or require people to agree with > > everything I post. > > > > > > With respect to the "media myth", I think you have it exactly > > backwards. USA as the bastion > > > of freedom and democracy is the media myth. One has only to see who > > owns the media to > > > understand how this could be the case. > > > > > > Outside the USA, the Evil Empire view is currently almost universal. > > It has particularly > > > floated to the surface with the current administration, coincidentally. > > > > > > The history of military adventurism and economic exploitation, the > > subvesion of foreign > > > governments, etc, is well established, but it NOT generally explored > > in the mainstream > > > media. > > > > > > More blatant recent developments regarding fraudulent elections and > > the subversions of > > > our civil liberties are merely the more recent and obvious > > indicators of corporate fascism. > > > > > > Europeans, having had more experience with these things, tend to see > > us as naive > > > barbarians. > > > > > > Most Americans, on the other hand, tend to be in denial about it. > > Those in the early stages > > > of owning it tend to be angry and/or frightened. > > > > > > L B S > > > > > Nothing complicated, I just think that on the whole the US has been > > more a positive than a negative force in world affairs and the 'evil' > > America thing is perpetuated by a press with an agenda of it's own. > > > > Those 'experienced' Europeans have had their collective bacon pulled > > from the fire by US barbarians quite a few times. And like Maharishi > > are rather ungrateful about it too, when it suits their purposes. As > > far as the TMO is concerned we're only a little evil but our cash is > > quite good. > > > > JohnY > > &&&&&&&& > > Again, I must politely disagree. The "press" rarely touches upon the inner dynamics of > history or current events, and has in fact been skillfully manipulated to preserve the myth > of Noble America. It takes time to put together a more accurate history and reading of > current events, and one must draw on many sources that "mainstream Americans" almost > never consult. > > What has happened within the past few years is just that the current administration has > exacerbated the deeply-rooted fascist trends within this country and made it harder to > deny them. > > Many decades of conditioning have to be overcome in order to see this. It is a painful > process. Not everyone wants to do it. No problem. Life is short, but time will sort this > question out for future historians. > > L B S > We'll just have to agree to disagree then. The agument that you put forward sounds like a variation of the "It's too subtle for you to see " argument that the TMO uses all the time. I have a hard time digesting that one anymore. Each polarity inspires and invigorates it's opposite and can't survive with out it. A new balance will come out of the extremes of left and right, or maybe we'll transcend. ;) The blogosphere and talk radio are now readjusting the mainstream media and the public will be better informed because of it.
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