--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Oops, forgot these:
> 
> On Dec 21, 2005, at 5:02 PM, Vaj wrote:
> 
> >>    
> >> 3.         Acts omnipotently with no accountability: Some 
spiritual
> >> communities are run like concentration camps, with guru and his  
> >> chosen
> >> ones acting like Gestapo officers. Unjust or outrageous 
behaviour by
> >> the guru is passed off as what is needed to help the followers 
grow
> >> (how kind). These are the dangerous gurus who have often severely
> >> damaged their students. A real master respects your will even 
if  
> >> he or
> >> she understands that your particular decisions may not be in your
> >> interest, and he or she will act accountably to an ethical code 
of
> >> conduct.
> 
> Yes.

As I noted in my previous response, there's no
accountability, but the spiritual communities are
hardly run like concentration; and I've never heard
anybody but bliss-ninny TBs suggest MMY's outrageous
or unjust behavior, such as it may be, is what is
needed to help followers grow.  It's certainly not an
official TMO line, at least that I've ever encountered.

> 
> >>    
> >> 4.         Focuses on enlightenment itself rather than teaching 
the path
> >> leading to it: It is amazing how much false gurus have to say 
about
> >> enlightenment. They argue their points in the same way that the
> >> scholars in the middle ages argued how many angels could sit on 
the
> >> head of a pin. Any fool can talk about the end goal because what 
is
> >> said is irrefutable to most of your listeners. What is skillful 
is
> >> guiding those listeners to having awakening within themselves. 
The
> >> real teacher focuses on the path and strictly avoids any talk on
> >> enlightenment.
> 
> Yes, only teaches an intro path all the while preaching \
> enlightenment.

<stretching...stretching...>

TM, of course, *is* the path MMY teaches, so it doesn't
make sense to claim MMY talks only about the goal and
not the path.

And your claim about TM being merely an "intro path" is
your opinion only, not an established fact.






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