--- In [email protected], Peter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
>
> Welcome back Lups! Where you been, boyo?

Just been throughly fed up at all the garbage in here that's all :-)
> 
> --- lupidus108 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> > I was present when Maharishi talked about the future
> > in terms of 
> > teachers leaving him. He described two signs to look
> > for: 
> > 1) Strong verbal "devotion" to Guru Dev. 
> > 2) Starting to use other pictures of Guru Dev than
> > the one he choose 
> > for Puja.
> > 
> > It's already happening.
> >  
> > Like everything else Maharishi has said will happen,
> > in due time.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > --- In [email protected], Peter
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > Nice post LB, you got it right.
> > > 
> > > --- L B Shriver <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > 
> > > > I occasionally reflect on the fact that
> > Fairfield,
> > > > as a New World Kumbh Mela, would not 
> > > > exist were it not for Maharishi—and, by
> > extension,
> > > > Guru Dev.
> > > > 
> > > > While I concur that reverential regard for
> > either of
> > > > the two is not and should not be a 
> > > > requirement for participation in this forum,
> > today I
> > > > feel inclined to make a few personal 
> > > > remarks.
> > > > 
> > > > Maharishi remains controversial; in the world at
> > > > large, in the Movement, and on this list, 
> > > > one finds a wide range of clinical evaluations
> > and
> > > > gut level emotional responses. When I 
> > > > traveled in India, I also found a wide range of
> > > > attitudes where Maharishi was concerned, 
> > > > but only the highest respect for Brahmananda
> > > > Saraswati.
> > > > 
> > > > Brahmanandaji has never disappointed me. Even
> > though
> > > > his teachings on the status of 
> > > > women were somewhat disappointing in the context
> > of
> > > > our perspective, they reflected his 
> > > > tradition more than anything else. Personally, I
> > > > believe his tradition was somewhat 
> > > > corrupted in that area. (By the way, I offer
> > these
> > > > remarks not as an apologist for 
> > > > Brahmanandaji, but to forestall the necessity of
> > > > having to be reminded of it.)
> > > > 
> > > > Brahmanadaji walked his talk.
> > > > 
> > > > Whatever criticisms people have about Maharishi,
> > > > without him it is unlikely that many of us 
> > > > would ever have heard about Brahmanandaji. In
> > the
> > > > big picture, without knowing what 
> > > > kinds of tools and resources were available to
> > Guru
> > > > Dev, I'm happy that Maharishi 
> > > > undertook his mission, whatever his motives may
> > have
> > > > been. Despite elements of the 
> > > > Movement that in the past I have found
> > unappealing,
> > > > and which I continue to find 
> > > > unappealing, I continue to sense Guru Dev's
> > presence
> > > > there also.
> > > > 
> > > > Whatever our complaints about our own lives or
> > about
> > > > the Movement, I think we can feel 
> > > > some gratitude in knowing  that a life like that
> > of
> > > > Guru Dev has touched our own 
> > > > existence, however distantly.
> > > > 
> > > > Jai Guru Dev,
> > > > 
> > > > L B S
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
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