Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Season's Greetings from Interfaith Charities International

[Vaj]

On Dec 27, 2005, at 4:09 PM, Peter wrote: --- Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: on 12/27/05 2:05 PM, authfriend at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Although on a Rishikesh TTC, Maharishi did say that you eventually do perceive the deity associated with your mantra. Sure.  But is it an actual personified being, or is it how one's own perception translates the abstraction into something it can grasp? I have friends who claim to see and even converse with the personified beings. This subtle, celestial stuff is absolutely, incredibly, charming, fascinating, mind-blowing when it opens-up, but  it really has nothing to do with Realization. Like the TM-siddhis, the value is in the practice of samayama, not in the attainment of a particular siddhi itself. That really doesn't mean anything in the context of Realization. Talking to the diety of your mantra is like talking to the bus driver who's taking you someplace. Fascinating guy, but nothing to do with your destination. This is not what the tantras which present these mantras and devatas teach. There is a particular way to communicate to deities and it does not use gross mentation or speech but communicates through pure symbolic communication: mudras. Devatas will also possess "action mantras" which allow you to manifest their energy in a specific way to assist your personal evolution. But no, using "vaikhari", gross speech, is not using the proper medium of communication for a devata. At their level of existence entire sentences, paragraphs or intents are just "flashed" through a simple symbolic element. Conversely, when a devata communicates to a yogin, entire ideas or teachings can be conveyed in a single symbol. There is also a samsaric aspect of devatas that are not representative of their actual manifestation but what TMers might call "unstressing". To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Maharishi university of management Maharishi mahesh yogi Ramana maharshi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS  Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web.    To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]    Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.