--- In [email protected], a_non_moose_ff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > How can this guy have experiences of realization and not be > the least bit aware of his addiction to being a dishonest, > pompous, self-important asshole?
Ignoring your attempt to start a fight yet again, where along the Way did you get the impression that realization was *incompatible* with being a dishonest, pompous, self-important asshole? Where along the Way did you get the impression that realization (being the basis of everything) could possibly be incompatible with *anything*? It seems to me that being a dishonest, pompous, self-important asshole (were that true) is better than being a spiritual retard. :-) :-) :-) > --- In [email protected], TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > > --- In [email protected], "jim_flanegin" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > wrote: > > > --- In [email protected], TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > wrote: > > > > --- In [email protected], Peter > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > This subtle, celestial stuff is absolutely, > > > > > > incredibly, charming, fascinating, mind-blowing when > > > > > > it opens-up, but it really has nothing to do with > > > > > > Realization. Like the TM-siddhis, the value is in the > > > > > > practice of samayama, not in the attainment of a > > > > > > particular siddhi itself. That really doesn't mean > > > > > > anything in the context of Realization. Talking to the > > > > > > diety of your mantra is like talking to the bus driver > > > > > > who's taking you someplace. Fascinating guy, but > > > > > > nothing to do with your destination. > > > > > > > > I've always felt that a fascination with subtle > > > > phenomena like this was just an indication of > > > > lack of experiences of realization. If one never > > > > gets to one's destination, one gets fascinated > > > > by the silly tourist attractions along the way. > > > > > > Its also a matter of perspective. Prior to Realization, I was > > > mostly an unhappy person- yep I admit it, after nearly thirty > > > years of meditation...So when these special experiences occurred, > > > I clung to them to boost my faith, and as life preservers in a > > > raging sea of my own making. > > > > Yup. Exactly what I had in mind. > > > > > Then when I turned inside out, the experiences that were so > > > special in an isolated and linear way, were still special, > > > only now on the backdrop of everyday magnificence. > > > > Well said. For me, after the first experiences > > of realization, any fascination I'd had with > > "subtle phenomena" such as have been mentioned > > here lately lost all appeal. It was like > > realizing that I'd been suckered into thinking > > the flame of one puny little match was a great > > source of light, when the sun had been shining > > all along. > > > ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor --------------------~--> Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM --------------------------------------------------------------------~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
