on 1/4/06 3:24 PM, a_non_moose_ff at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > Though you seem more cautious in your statements today Rick, as I > remember, you have spoken in the past of many in FF becoming awakened > and many sitting around FF satsangs popping into enlightenment weekly. > > Yet if Maharishi and Amma both appear to hold the above, that they > > i) don't find a value in proclaiming their students as enlightened, or > ii) per their standards, few or none actually are > > > i) then do you hold views counter to Maharishi and Amma? > > ii) if so, what is your reasoning / understanding / experience that > makes you hold such views? > > iii) or have your views on the FF Awakening scene become more catious > and conservative with time? > > (I am sincerely interested, I am not being argumentative, in case > thats not clear.)
I think it depends on how we define enlightenment. If it just means knowing the Self, I think that's relatively commonplace, and it applies to many people in FF and elsewhere. Maybe that's what MMY means by CC, but he never regarded CC as enlightenment. If it means Brahman, then I think that's much more rare. And if the ability to perform siddhis at will is the acid test of that, as MMY suggests, then I think we can safely say that there are few if any enlightened people in FF. I don't have adamant opinions on this, on on much of anything. ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor --------------------~--> Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM --------------------------------------------------------------------~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
