Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: 20 POINTS - EXPERIENTIAL CRITERIA OF C.C.

[Vaj]

On Jan 7, 2006, at 12:59 PM, a_non_moose_ff wrote: Vaj, can you be more specific on what type of methods thjese are, or description of such. I generally would not discuss such methods. I have had specific "knowledge unfolding" in side of me, perhaps similar to what Jim is referring to, where "methods" become clear to me (not necessarily applicable for everyone) which I use with good benefit. One was specifically for vasanas, having to do with the "light and heat of attention" and deep 'hyper-breath" -- similar the type that can spontaneously arise in yogic flying.  Others are mahavakaya like insights / understandings that come -- and when digested, lead to wonderful things. This inner-revelation effect seems consistant with what a Maharishi  pundit told me in a jyotish reading. Ironic as it sounds, I asked the pundit about how and when I could / would find a "teacher"  / guru for personal guidance. He said that for my chart, that was not necessary, that my intuition would give me all the knowledge needed -- but to just read the scriptures occaisionally to find support for what you find to be true inside of yourself. I've also found that tremendously helpful. While I take everything jyotish pundits say with a grain of salt, his statement, and my own experience, do point to a "traditional" path for some, of knowledge unfoldng within -- without the benefit of a physical teacher or linnege.  Do your tradition(s) recognze such, or is such seen simply as delusion?  No, super-knowledge or jnana--or in the non-dual sense "vidya" (synonymous with brahma-vidya) is crucial for higher development IMO. It may even get quite specific as in the form of jnana-dakinis / jnana-shaktis which act like a kind of UI for higher-consciousness. And it's what exhausts our stored karmic potentials turning karma into real Wisdom (jnana). But it might also just be the arising of our experience of the world, without grasping, which does this as well. I'm very suspicious of people who claim exalted stages (rather than just "states") but lack any jnana-shakti. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Maharishi university of management Maharishi mahesh yogi Ramana maharshi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS  Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web.    To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]    Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.