On Jan 9, 2006, at 5:30 PM, authfriend wrote:

 I was hoping Rick would 

get back to us on it, because frankly it was one of the most 

bizarre thing I had ever heard. "Just when you thought it couldn't 

get any weirder". It does. Then all this world government and 

reports from inside people that he is interested in world 

domination? Sometime a cigar IS a cigar and megalomaniac IS a 

megalomaniac.


Which "inside people" are these?  Is "world domination"

a phrase being attributed to MMY, and if so, in what

context was he using it?  What did he mean by it?


Yes by some. Referring to his insatiable desires. IIRC correctly it was his personal allopathic physician.


And remember how old he is.


Yes, that's been more and more obvious.


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No need to respond. It's fairly common in many guru trips. I

assume most are familiar with the guru-slave thing.


You mean the traditional approach to enlightenment

I mentioned?


That's the approach that caused you to wonder if it

was "the similar style of testing used by dictators

and the like," the one Krishna describes in the Gita,

for example?


No, it's not unusual to hear reports of paranoid people in high  

places "testing" those close to them, not out of some desire to do  

them better, but because they're frickin' paranoid megalomaniacs...


The context was MMY's apparent approach of teaching

followers not to be attached to the goal, not "testing."

*You* brought up testing--Steve Briggs' idea that MMY

had been testing him--as if it were the same thing,

then compared testing to dictators, then claimed MMY

was an admirer of Hitler.


I pointed out that "surrender to the guru" was a

traditional approach to enlightenment, not something

MMY had invented.  You then called that traditional

approach a "guru trip" and a "guru-slave thing."


The strange connections here, and the subsequent

reluctance to acknowledge them, are all yours.


I'm not reluctant at all. I'm merely pointing out all the possibilities by pointing out the extreme possibilities in a humorous way. In the full context of his behavior it's impossible to know which represents the real Mahesh.


I mean you can't help but put 2 & 2 together here:


-history of extreme, "it's the CIA" paranoia to people who are not  

CIA. Paranoid ideation.

-develops plans for his own world government with his own self- 

proclaimed name/title as part of it.

-develops his own monetary system.

-talks about tearing down cities and then buying the new ones off 

of him.

-gloats over a globe of the planet in his forest lair like someone  

from a James Bond movie...A BAD James Bond movie with Roger Moore.

-don't touch me. No not even the feet, ok?

-surrounds himself with mad scientists.

-begins setting up millionaires as kings in his government, i.e.  

acting republican.

-Bevan ...no just kidding, I like Bevan.


etc.


Where better to place a pathology than in the eastern slavishness

of  an extreme guru/disciple relationship?


And you claim *MMY* is paranoid??


Well just really repeating what others recently have observed on this list re: the CIA thing/renting out floors above and below him, etc.


Vaj, you're beginning to sound like the nutcases who

went after Bill Clinton.




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