--- In [email protected], a_non_moose_ff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > One of the characteristics of resting the mind in the Natural, non- > > dual State is that thoughts will not repeat themselves in samsaric > > chains--they self-liberate of and by themselves, "like a snake > > untying itself from a knot". The nice thing is, if we can experience > > thought from the perspective of this unified state, the pattern that > > causes them to arise repeatedly is immediately cut...for > > good...unless we recreate the same conditions that put them there in > > the first place... > > Use of the term the "non-dual state", in this context, appears odd to > me. Maintaining pure awareness while holding a thought, consciousness > glowing within itself -- akin to a developing yet not complete TMO CC > state -- appears to be what you are referring to. The PC along with > the thought is enough to disolve the vasana at the root of the > repeated thought pattern. > > Yet CC, or CC type of states, are the essence of duality. It is the > realization of Atman. Atman being seperate from all of "this" -- the > world of change. > > And yet this so-called but erroneously termed "non-dual state" seems > to be the foucs of some neo-advaitans and satsangians -- that this > dual state is the "end of the veda", a uphanishadic realization of the > ultimate reality. > > The advaita of the shankaracharian traditions is true non-duality: the > realization -- more than "understanding" -- the total groking that > Atman is Brahman. That this inner consciousness glowing within itself, > Atman, is also all of that -- all of (what appears to be) the changing > phenomenal world. > > That is the non-dual state. Not a CC type experience. >
Which is why MMY sometimes refers to CC as "glorified ignorance." > > > > > It is the realization that Atman is Brahman > ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor --------------------~--> Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM --------------------------------------------------------------------~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
