--- In [email protected], doctor_gabby_savy 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> --- In [email protected], "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
> >
> > --- In [email protected], doctor_gabby_savy 
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >
> > > --- In [email protected], "authfriend" 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
> > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > --- In [email protected], doctor_gabby_savy 
> > > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > --- In [email protected], Peter 
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
> > > > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > The precession of the earth's axis causes the cardinal
> > > > > > directions to slowly shift about 1 degree every 72
> > > > > > years. In moves in a circle with an arc of approx 24
> > > > > > degrees completing one cycle every 26,000 years.
> > > > > 
> > > > > This
> > > > > > means that if you establish "true" north, 13,000 years
> > > > > > later it will be off by 24 degrees. Oh no! time to
> > > > > > rotate the house!
> > > > > 
> > > > > 13000 / 72 = 24?????????
> > > > > Is that the "new" math?
> > > > > 
> > > > > I get 180 degrees. Which makes sense since that is half a 
circle
> > > > > --which corresponds to 13,000/26,000 -- half a precessional 
> > cycle.
> > > > > 
> > > > > I need to better "visualize" what happens with precession.
> > > > 
> > > > It's like a top wobbling as its spin slows down.
> > > > 
> > > > Picture a dinner plate, with the top moving around the
> > > > outer edge of the plate, spinning as it goes, but also
> > > > wobbling slowly.  The axis of the top describes a small
> > > > circle.  The sun is at the center of the plate.  The
> > > > plane of the circle the top's axis is describing is
> > > > roughly parallel to the plane of the plate.
> > > > 
> > > > (Please excuse if this is a duplicate.  Yahoo burped as
> > > > I was trying to post it the first time.)
> > > 
> > > Thanks. I understand that -- to a degree. :)
> > > 
> > > But does it imply the sun rose in west 13,000 yrs agos?
> > 
> > No.  How could it?  The direction of the earth's
> > rotation doesn't change.
> 
> My point exactly. As you may have seen in my original post back to 
> peter (to which you responded) if procession does not imply the sun
> rising from different directions, for example from the west 13,000
> yrsr agos (half a precessional cycle), then why and how does it
> make SV invalid in the long run -- as Peter has argued.

I don't think your mental model is quite right,
but I'm not sure exactly how it's off, so I don't
know how to help you correct it.  Maybe somebody
else can.






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