--- In [email protected], doctor_gabby_savy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In [email protected], "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > You appear to think tropically that "the position of the sun from year > to year at the time of the vernal equinox" is different from "the > day-to-day position of the sun in the Zodiac frame of reference". > You appear to have made a distinction in language,inyour mind, that > does not correspond to a distinction in the world. > > If, tropically, the sun is in aries in "the position of the sun from > year to year at the time of the vernal equinox" the sun is also in > aries, tropically in "the day-to-day position of the sun in the > Zodiac frame of reference". > > Same observational RP, same calculational RP.
Another way to visualize it is to think of an earth-centric view of the sun and planets rotation around the earth. Like an astrology chart. For this example I will use a southern style --rectangualar jyotish chart so we easily, verbally ID the constelations. And this imaginary chart has no ayanamsa adjustment, it is tropical. Pisces is the northwest square, aries is horizontally parallel to pisces, one square to the right, aquarius is vertically below pisces. The other constallations continue in a rectangle, Virgo is in the SE cornor, Sag is in SW cornor etc. Many put the position of the sun at VE at cusp of pisces and aries in 60 BCE. Thus, in every annual rotation of the sun, every year in that era, VE occured near that cusp. But with precession of the equinox, the position of the sun at vernal equinox goes to the left, counterclock ways, one degree every 72 years or so years, roughly equivalent to one days travel of the sun from the position of the sun at BCE 60 VE (at cusp of aries and pisces). The position of the sun at VE of 2170 (2170/72 yrs per degrees = 30 degrees ~ 30 days) which will occur at the tropical cusp of pisces and aquarius, will be 330 degrees from the position of the sun at 60B CE VE. Thus, the 2170 VE will occur about a month earlier than the 60BCE VE Continuing, in 13000 years, the sun at VE will occur in virgo, 180 degrees from sun at ve now . It will be in earth time, around september. All of this is tropical view. There are no "two reference points here". Its all the same reference point. You appear to have made a distinction in language, in your mind, about two refence points that do not correspond to a distinction in the world. Draw the above chart out on paper. Mark the changing position of the sun at VE. Its not hard. ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor --------------------~--> Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM --------------------------------------------------------------------~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
