--- In [email protected], "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
>
> --- In [email protected], bbrigante <no_reply@> wrote:
> >
> > --- In [email protected], Rick Archer 
> > <fairfieldlife@> wrote:
> > >
> > > on 2/2/06 3:38 PM, bbrigante at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > > > 
> > > > There are probably few countries that impose legitimate fees 
or
> > > > taxes on moving money -- it's more likely that it was done 
to 
> > avoid
> > > > paying bribes to customs officials when they saw a large 
amount 
> > of
> > > > currency there for dipping into. When you leave/enter the 
USA, 
> > you
> > > > need to declare whether you have more than $10K in 
cash/etc., 
> or 
> > you
> > > > could be heavily fined, but there is just about zero 
> possibility 
> > of
> > > > a USA customs official asking for a bribe, unlike many 
countries
> > > > around the world where this is SOP:
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > 
> 
http://www.customs.ustreas.gov/xp/cgov/travel/vacation/kbyg/money.xml
> > > 
> > 
> > 
> > > So moving money from Spain to Switzerland, which Leon Weiner 
was 
> > arrested
> > > for doing, would have involved paying a bribe to some 
officials?
> > >
> > 
> > ****************
> > 
> > Possibly if he had declared the money when leaving Spain, as he 
> > would have to do when leaving the USA, there might have been a 
> > concern about having to pay a bribe to Spanish officials at that 
> > time -- although there would not have been a problem with having 
to 
> > pay a bribe to a Swiss customs guard, there might well have been 
a 
> > tradition of having to pay off poorly paid Spaniards (Spain in 
the 
> > 70s was pretty poor, no senor?). You are not presenting any 
> evidence 
> > of any law requiring payment of fees on transfer of money 
between 
> > countries, and if there were no such fee, then it would be hard 
to 
> > explain why it was necessary to hide the money. 
> > 
> > Possibly, there was concern about being targeted for a robbery. 
I 
> > remember at MIU in the 70s, Jacob Hahn, the cashier, used to 
take a 
> > different route to the bank from MIU every day to make cash 
> > deposits. Even if Spanish guards would not hit you up for a 
bribe, 
> > they might tip off criminals at the passenger's destination. It 
> > would also not to be safe to put money in checked baggage, 
> > obviously, there is all kinds of theft even in the U.S. from 
> checked 
> > baggage to this day. And there is also a problem with other 
> > passengers seeing that you have a lot of money -- theft from 
> carryon 
> > baggage happens too, easy to do when the courier is sitting in 
TM.
> > 
> > Bottom line: where's your proof to support your thesis that 
there 
> > are laws which require payment of fees to transfer money?
> 


> I keep wondering why it would be necessary to transfer
> funds in *cash*, in physical bills.  Why not deposit
> the money in a bank account and have the bank transfer
> the funds?
>

***********

It may not have been legal to make such a transfer from a nonprofit 
entity in Spain to a nonprofit entity in Switzerland, tax laws and 
all that -- if that were the case, then bank wires would have been 
indadvisable. Or maybe it was just such a hassle to make a wire 
transfer and comply with all the requirements of the law in two 
countries that the TMO decided to run the risk of having their 
runner arrested. People used to yell at Guru Dev all the time 
because he would not respect fenced property, but would walk 
straight  through people's land in his desired direction. 

No big deal, since the funds were used for TMO purposes regardless 
of the country where they were raised or spent.






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