--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On Feb 19, 2006, at 10:25 PM, jyouells2000 wrote: > > >> I would be very interested to know which meditation techniques those > >> are, Ingegard. > >> > >> Certainly there are many that are similar in that they use mantras > >> and pujas, etc. But with the exception of methods such as those > >> taught by Chopra, Shri Shri, and others who were students of MMY, I > >> have never come across a teaching that had the whole "effortless, > >> simple" aspect of TM. > >> > >> Have you? > >> > >> If so, I'd love to know about them...could you tell us which ones > >> they are? > >> > >> Thanks. > > > > > > I'd like to hear about them too. I remember Maharishi saying in more > > expansive moments that a technique that operates effortlessly through > > any sense and transcends it's own activity, is essentially > > trancendental meditation. This, of course was before the near > > effortless activity of lawyers... > > > A very detailed science of mantra and it's usage--as in "manasika > japa"--mental use of mantra--goes back to the remotest antiquity. Pre- > Vedic. In fact the basis for mantra usage a la TM (and numerous other > methods) are all pre-Vedic, tantric methods, some of which were > appropriated by Vedic systems. And they have a system starting from > the simple manasika-japa/TM methods, to more profound methods. But it > is a science, it does possess a vast literature and it can be > studied. The only thing is the entire educational system of the TM > movement has by and large hidden that science away. If it was out in > the open, it would be immediately clear, this ain't "Vedic" people.
As I have said I am not an expert in other Hindu Meditation - and the Veda. Many of you are - and I am not able to discuss at your deep level of knowledge about these things. But since I do not have a Guru - I am free to try out what I read and learn - without using too much intellect. So I just saw the connection between the TM and Hindu Meditation - and because it seemed so right - I tried it out - and afterwards I could logically see how MMy had build up the steps, taking some here some there and structured his teaching. I just opened some books and there it was. And yes, I find what I experienced very effortless and easy and very fullfilling, I came deeper than in TM. I do not want to go into details because it is very personal. Maybe I just saw it because I am a TM-Teacher - I don't know. Ingegerd > ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor --------------------~--> Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM --------------------------------------------------------------------~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/