--- In [email protected], Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > on 2/20/06 1:34 AM, hugheshugo at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > > > Thanks I've just read the sadie files. very interesting. > > > > I think you've missed the point though, Maharishi claims to be a > > celibate monk and was apparently sleeping with his disciples I can't > > think of anything that undermines the TM movement more. What else > > has he lied about, the maharishi effect? good fund raiser that. > > Ayurveda? never worked for me but rakes in millions. > > > > I'm serious, it's more than a question of consenting adults, a lot > > of people will have nervous breakdowns they are into this stuff so > > much, they believe MMY speaks with the voice of god! And all the > > time he was getting blow jobs of young girls too scared or awed to > > know any better! > > > > > > How can the truth not be black and white? > > It never is. I share your questions and sentiments, but I've spent enough > time around Maharishi to know that he has many good qualities and is > remarkable in many ways. Regardless of his behavior, he appeared to me to be > in a very high state of consciousness: his darshan was transformative, his > intellect brilliant, his energy extraordinary. When I was a new meditator > and hadn't met him yet, a friend was razzing me about Maharishi's Rolls > Royces. I responded that I didn't know about that, but that if the benefits > I was getting from TM were any indication of the man's worth, he must be a > remarkable man. I still assert that, although I have very little doubt that > the sexual allegations are true, that he's an unethical businessman, etc. > I'm not saying those things are acceptable; they detract from his greatness, > and are probably symptomatic of the underlying reasons why the TMO has > failed. Just that he's made a larger-than-life contribution to the world > despite his foibles. >
Well that I agree with, I have got a lot out of TM and I always believed it to be a force for good in the world. But the more time I've spent with the movement the more cynical I've got and thats a shame as I used to be passionate about spreading the word. Not any more. I think the term foibles is a bit too much of a forgiving term, If a teacher at college etc seduces a student it is always abuse, of power trust etc. I can see no difference here, I thinks it's worse actually. The girls concerned may still love MMY but this is typical of people in such a dysfunctional relationship. I still think the truth is always clear though and I will be interested to see the expressions on my believer friends faces when they find out their guru, who they think speaks with the voice of god don't forget, is not as pure as they thought. ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor --------------------~--> Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM --------------------------------------------------------------------~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
