--- In [email protected], anon_astute_ff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


> 
> In Norway, as I recall, its an intolerable crime to insult the king,
> even as a joke.. More so in Thailand  as I recall, where you can get
> into serious trouble by doing so. Hard for Americans to "get" that --
> they joke about the royal family in UK and elsewhere all the time --
> seeing kings as antiquated throwbacks of tyranny. 

But then Norwegians and Brittons don't bomb their embassies as a result. 

> 
> But damn, mess with that flag -- or say something unholy about Jesus
> -- and your ass is fried. Lots of other examples -- Jewish Holy land,
> Hindu sacred cows and temple sites (adhoya sp?), cutting a sikhs hair,
> etc. 
> 
> To be insensitive to another culture and disrespect their sacred
> things -- "because it seems trivial to us" -- is the height --  or
> depth -- of stupidity, crudeness, rudeness, and barbarianism. 
> 
> To say "I think every news channel and newspaper in the world should
> publish  the cartoon, including the ones in Muslim countries. If the
> fanatics have too many targets it will be the same as no targets"
> marks you as the above. 
> 
> But hey, maybe you have a point. Lets go burn some flags, drag some
> crucifixes through urine, deface some Stars of David with swastikas, 
>  and burn some crosses on every block across the US.  If those US
> fanatics have too many targets it will be the same as no targets".
> 

I didn't say their beliefs were trivial. 

My point was to make the cartoon so ubiquitous they don't have a
target, much in the way the Danish people did when the Nazis required
Jews to wear the Star of David:   the whole population, including the
Kind, wore the Star of David on their clothes. If everyone's doing it,
it might get a little harder to find the target you want to hate. 

There's a difference between disrespect and sacrilege. You can
disrespect another's religion but only commit a sacrilege in your own.
 Those rioting in protest against the cartoon are opposing it as a
great religious travesty, a sacrilege. Which is de facto imposing
their religious standards on non-Muslims. 

"...burn some flags, drag some
> crucifixes through urine, deface some Stars of David with swastikas, 
>  and burn some crosses on every block across the US. "

All those are examples of physical acts, some of which have been
associated with considerable violence. That's a far cry from
publishing a cartoon, which is an editorial comment. 

I agree it is in bad taste and disrespectful, but the violence and
riots upon its publication do nothing to undermine the assumptions
that prompted it.









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