--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jyouells2000" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anon_astute_ff <no_reply@> wrote:
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Ingegerd"
> > <marwincornyarmand@> wrote:
> > >
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anon_astute_ff <no_reply@> 
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Many cultures have sacred symbols, or sinful acts -- that often 
> > > seem
> > > > trivial to other cultures. Creating an image of Mohammad -- in 
> > > Islam
> > > > is one of the latter. Seems odd to many christians. Hey its
just  a
> > > > cartoon. But let the same see a US flag burned, and they are
ready 
> > > to
> > > > nuke the perpetrators. Another culture says, its just a piece of
> > > > cloth, why the fuss? 
> > > > 
> > > > In Norway, as I recall, its an intolerable crime to insult the 
> > > king,
> > > > even as a joke.
> > > 
> > > The stand-up comedian have making jokes of the King for years.
It is 
> > > not looked at as a crime at all in Norway. Sometimes you need jokes 
> > > about "holy" things or dogmas simply to put an eye on it - to maybe 
> > > start a process of discussion and through discussions make changes. 
> > > Ingegerd
> > 
> > Ok Thanks for the clarification. When I visited Oslo, the point was
> > made about the king to me. I was not sure how "real" it was.
> > 
> > > Sometimes you need jokes 
> > > about "holy" things or dogmas simply to put an eye on it - to maybe 
> > > start a process of discussion and through discussions make changes. 
> > 
> > I agree humor and satire can, in appropriate circumstances, be good
> > discussion starters. And help people see more sides of an issue. But
> > not always in all circumstances. Its not always effective. There is a
> > time and place for humor. 
> > 
> > In my view, the editors of the magazine that published the cartoons
> > are imbeciles with no cultural sensitivity. Its "free speech" just as
> > yelling fire in a theatre is, or yelling "niggers" to a crowd
> > assembled to protest a beating of a black by a police officer. Not all
> > free speech is protected in the US. When it is, it can sometimes be an
> > exercise in stupidity. 
> > 
> > Free speech does not protect one from the consequences of poor taste,
> > imbecilic outbursts, or culturally ignorant explosive speech. For
> > example, If I see a group of latino youths and I shout "your sisters a
> > whore", its protected free speech. But I must bear the consequences of
> > having the shit beat out of me for my poor taste.
> >
> 
> There is a 'level difference' between beating the shit out of you and
> killing you for your poor taste.
> 
> 
> JohnY

Your logic is vastly confused or at least confusing.

Who killed who? Did the muslims kill the cartoonists? 
Are you saying the gang beating would never result in death? 
Are you saying its ok to insult people and cultures if they just beat
the shit out of you, but not if they kill you?









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