--- In [email protected], t3rinity <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Barry,
> you are far to heated, and I don't want to bore the audience 
> here with a rebutal of your single arguments. 

Or with dealing with them. Whatever. :-)

> Take my word for it: I don't mean it personal, and I surely 
> don't want to change you (with whom should I discuss in the 
> future? ;-)). 

A good point. If everyone believed the same things,
the universe would be incredibly boring.

> Also when I say, that I don't understand, how someone 
> witnessing, could have regrets for the past, I don't 
> mean that in a personal way. I just mean it like this. 
> And I still do. 

Thanks for the clarification. I think part of your
issue is assuming that I'm talking about "regrets."
I'm not; I have none. There is nothing in my life
I would change if given the opportunity. But that
is a *separate* subject than my ongoing fascination
with spiritual teachings and which ones of them
seem to be effective and which seem to be less
effective, or even harmful, in the long run. I 
reserve the right to be interested in that subject.
The things I talk about here with regard to TM and
Maharishi are in that vein; they are *not* about
"regrets."

> But that doesn't mean I want to prove that your 
> experiences are higher or lower etc, thats childish. 

I agree.

> We are not in a competition, neither of
> us. And the view,that one could fool oneself believing 
> to be enlightened, is of course also general.There is 
> indeed solid scientific research about choices and 
> free-will, and how the I sensation comes about, 
> clearly denying the simplistic notion of 'I am
> the doer of this deed', you are just not interested 
> in it, which is okay.

I don't consider it either scientific or definitive,
that's all. You do, because it supports what you'd
like to believe. I've looked into the study you 
keep quoting, and I believe that was its genesis;
IMO the researchers went into it *looking for* ways
to "prove" their existing belief that free will
did not exist. Of course, they found them. This,
of course, is Just My Opinion. You are free to 
believe that the study is valid. If you have free 
will, that is; otherwise you're stuck with what
the universe wants you to believe.  :-)







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