--- In [email protected], "anonyff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In [email protected], "authfriend" <jstein@> wrote: > > > > That's my impression too. The point isn't to absorb > > the teacher's qualities of *mind* but his/her qualities > > of *consciousness*. Moreover, it's the process of > > surrender itself, I should think, that does most of the > > "work" of structuring freedom. > > This discussion, and Judy's point (everyone's collectively, really) > brough to mind the passage from the Gita (Gita scholars chime in > here) where it says (paraphrased) "...better to die in one's own > dharma than trying to take on the dharma of another..."
(Just to clarify, taking on the dharma of another isn't what I was talking about above. I don't think that's what MMY was doing with Guru Dev at all.) > I know that this has really had to come into play in my own life, > realizing that all that I took and and tried to be via my long years > with the TM org were attempts at living someone elses vision of how > my life should be lived. > > And I've seen this struggle in so many others. Some have > successfully managed to imbibe qualites/ways of living that, > initially, seemed so alien, and they truly made them their own. > Others, like me, strained to be a certain way and in many ways it > backfired. I feel like I wasted years of my life, from age 30-40, > knowing and experiencing my life as anything but a success but > unwilling/unable to escape from the deep rut I had dug myself into > from taking on a massive belief system that clearly wasn't working > but which I clung to in the hopes I was wrong and any second now it > was going to work. This never happened until I decided to "get > out" and even then (15+ years ago) and now, I struggle with the > whole thing. Can you look at it as a "learning experience"? It sounds like you're blaming yourself. Is that what the struggling part is about now? That seems to me to be more of a waste than sincerely having tried to make a go of a way of life that felt as though it made sense at the time. > > > Ricks example of those around him now I think is false. They are > > > "works in progress". Better examples are SSRS. Perhaps Chopra. For > > > more finsihed works. > > > > > > Look at the holy tradition. Was each master a clone of his master? > > > Hardly, it seems. What is passed down is consciousness awakened to > > > itself. Content is not "the thing". > > > ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor --------------------~--> Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM --------------------------------------------------------------------~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
