--- In [email protected], "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> --- In [email protected], TurquoiseB <no_reply@> wrote:
> >
> > Since everyone's "coming clean" here, I made passes
> > (mostly successful ones, I might add) at women 
> > in the TM movement for years, and got away with
> > it scot-clean. 
> > 
> > In my defense, I was young and ruled by testosterone,
> > not unstressing, and the women were all TM teachers
> > like myself. They seemed pleased to find another
> > teacher who wasn't all gaga about celibacy. I was
> > pleased that they were pleased, and endeavored to
> > please them even more. End of story.
> 
> David, on the other hand, was and is married. I'm sure 
> it wasn't a very fun thing to talk to one's wife about, 
> especially with rumors flying around.

We'll never know. Get over it. 

There are better things in life to do than get all
moralistic about Someone Else's Sexual Peccadillos
(or Peccadildos, if you prefer). Let's face it...
we're ALL kinky to the max, each in our own ways.
And that's Ok.

In my case, it was the mid-70s -- post-Pill, pre-
AIDS, and a time when pretty much the entire
culture where I lived centered on Californication.
Add to that being a very obviously non-celibate
guy in an organization in which many of the men
spent more time making moods than they did making
women, and the bottom line was that I made out like
a bandit. I don't mean to shock anyone ( too much,
anyway :-), but there were six-week ATR courses in
which I slept with seven different women, fellow
female TM teachers who were all as sexually active 
as I was. There was a *lot* going on...uh...under 
the covers of the TM movement in that era.

It *is* a lot more complicated when one or both of
the people is married. I never ran into that situation;
I've always had this thing about not fooling around
with women who are Otherwise Involved. But it *could* 
have happened, and I don't know how I would have 
reacted and acted if it did.

That said, there *is* also something about David's 
"unstressing" rap rings true to me. There is some-
thing that just *happens* when you stand in front
of a large group of people and have their attention
focused on you. Many of them, especially if they are
meditating several hours a day, develop a bad case
of Fuck The Course Leader Syndrome. I've had it
aimed at me -- and submitted to it -- many times.
You can get really *bent* when the attention of
several dozen or several hundred unstressing 
meditators is focused on you. You can wind up 
doing some seriously stupid shit.

So I join with the others here who have applauded
David on his reply. Those who pretend that only
others do stupid shit and who get all moralistic 
about the stupid things they might have done are, 
in my opinion, fooling themselves. They've done 
stupid shit, too. We all have. It goes with the 
territory of being a human being.







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