--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, foufou_fl <no_reply@> wrote:
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, MDixon6569@ wrote:
> > >
> > >  
> > > In a message dated 2/24/06 12:13:53 P.M. Central Standard Time,  
> > > shempmcgurk@ writes:
> > > 
> > > Ortega,  to his credit, has now denounced Marxism and has 
> embraced 
> > > free  markets).
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Wow , a liberal sees the  light!
> > 
> > Liberals love free markets.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> That's the classic definition of a "liberal" which is what many who 
> are regarded as conservatives are today...and, by contrast, what is 
> called a "liberal" today is one who does NOT love free markets but, 
> rather, controls, such as what you go on to describe below...
> 
> 
> 
> 
> > They just don't go for controlled, rigged,
> > manipulated ones -- or where  market costs go unaccounted for or
> > unpaid by market participants.
> >
While I understand your historical perspective, my take on many
conservatives is that they seek and endorse corporate welfare, large
goverment programs, regulations from which they profit, gov't imposed
barriers to entry in markets they are entrenched, gov't sanction
oligopolistic market structures,etc. Thats in contrast to older style
"real conservatives" who were great defenders of free markets -Milton
Friedman types. 


Not to say that today's liberals are shining lights of integrity. But
most at least give lip service, and sometimes real support, to free
markets and competiton. 

For example, breaking up monopolistic power (unless its a natural
monopoly, like utilities) is a very free markets, pro competition
action. Many conservatives drag their feet on such, while liberals
support it.





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