I can't believe I have Shemp defending me against Judy! But I have, so keep up the good work, Shemp! I agree with many of your points. You are right that to think a particular homosexual practice disgusting does not of itself constitute homophobia. I do know homosexuals, and I like them. But if I find myself thinking about what they do, I find it disgusting. Better to be honest about one's feelings and reactions than pretend to something else.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <jstein@> > wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "feste37" <feste37@> wrote: > > > > > > Ah, there you are quite wrong. I do not believe homosexual anal > > intercourse > > > should be made illegal, and certainly should not result in > > sentences of two > > > years hard labor, as it did in the case of Oscar Wilde. Nor do I > > think that > > > homosexuals should be discriminated against. > > > > Just publicly insulted, > > > > > > How exactly did he do that? > > > > > > > > > called disgusting, > > > > > > > Well, calling something someone does "disgusting" is not by itself a > put-down of that person or the group that person is associated > with. Heterosexuals do alot of disgusting things, too. > > > > > > > > > and > > compared to animals, right? > > > > > Well, they do call the heterosexual position "doggy style", don't > they? Is that so terrible? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > What people do in the privacy > > > of their own homes is their own business. But it doesn't mean > I > > have to go > > > along with the homosexual agenda that brainwashes people into > > believing > > > that a homosexual 'lifestyle" is just as good as any other. > > > > Actually you've fallen prey to the homophobic agenda; > > there is no such thing as a homosexual "lifestyle." > > Gay people have a variety of lifestyles, just like > > straight people. > > > > And oh, by the way, you don't have to be "brainwashed" > > into realizing that homosexual people are just as good > > as you are (well, in your case, maybe better). All you > > have to do is get to know some of them. > > > > > > this is a bit condescending, Judy. How do you know that feste > doesn't know homosexuals? odds are that he -- like virtually > everyone else on the planet -- knows a homosexual. > > Just because he has issues with > > > > > > > No doubt the > > > sodomites on this board who have so recently been giving out > handy > > little tips > > > on their practices will disagree, as is their right. Everyone > has > > the right to > > > choose their own path to hell. > > > > And you've chosen yours, that's for sure. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <jstein@> > wrote: > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "feste37" <feste37@> > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > I read everything. Oscar Wilde is one of my favorite > authors. > > One > > > > of my > > > > > favorite characters in all literature is Lord Henry Wootton, > in > > > > Picture of Dorian > > > > > Gray. Lord Henry is a homosexual, but he has some lovely > > epigrams. > > > > What > > > > > happened to Oscar was a terrible tragedy. > > > > > > > > You bet it was. You do realize that it was homophobes > > > > like you who created the tragedy, don't you? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <jstein@> > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" > <jstein@> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sorry, but I don't find the acts disgusting. I > > > > > > > find homophobia such as yours disgusting. > > > > > > > > > > > > What were you doing reading that book, by the way? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "feste37" > <feste37@> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Those who are so keen to prove their liberal > credentials > > by > > > > > > > endorsing the > > > > > > > > practice of buggery might care to consult The Secret > Life > > of > > > > > > Oscar > > > > > > > Wilde > > > > > > > > (2005), by Neil McKenna, which provides many details > of > > the > > > > > > > disgusting > > > > > > > > nature of such acts. After Oscar had his way with the > > young > > > > men > > > > > > who > > > > > > > came to > > > > > > > > his hotel room, the sheets were stained with shit, and > > this > > > > was > > > > > > > important > > > > > > > > evidence, as supplied by a maid, in Oscar's conviction > at > > his > > > > > > > trial. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, foufou_fl > > <no_reply@> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" > > > > <jstein@> > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, foufou_fl > > > > <no_reply@> > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Alex > Stanley" > > > > > > > > > > > <j_alexander_stanley@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In > FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "feste37" > > > > > > <feste37@> > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Oh, Jude, I hate to be the first person to > > inform > > > > you > > > > > > of > > > > > > > this, > > > > > > > > > > > > > but the particular orifice in question was > not > > > > designed > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > > > > > accommodate that particular appendage. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If you're going to appeal to teleology, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I was shocked tofind that feste is a > creationist -- > > or > > > > at > > > > > > > least an > > > > > > > > > > > intelligent design deist pseudo scientist. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Or maybe just a homophobe. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I thought the latter was synonomous with the former > two. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------ Yahoo! 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