--- In [email protected], wmurphy77 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> --- In [email protected], "jim_flanegin" <jflanegi@> 
> wrote:
> >
> > --- In [email protected], "authfriend" <jstein@> 
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > --- In [email protected], TurquoiseB <no_reply@> 
> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > --- In [email protected], "Patrick Gillam" 
> > > > <jpgillam@> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > We've had a half-dozen contributors to this list 
> > > > > who profess to be functioning from Brahman. 
> > > > > I've read that the larger Fairfield community has 
> > > > > a dozen or so who've awakened. MUM says it's 
> > > > > doing research on a dozen or so people in CC. 
> > > > > I get the impression that "seven lifetimes" stuff
> > > > > may apply to some of us, but it's likely an old
> > > > > rule that no longer applies.
> > > > 
> > > > It also is a "rule" that shows a remarkable 
> > > > ignorance of Eastern thought. Within many
> > > > Asian traditions, it is considered a given
> > > > that one has to have logged *tens of thousands*
> > > > of incarnations, many of them human, just to
> > > > get to the point where one is attracted to 
> > > > spiritual practice.
> > > 
> > > I was under the impression that the clock on the
> > > "seven lifetimes" rule Patrick is referring to
> > > started ticking *at* the point where one is
> > > attracted to spiritual practice.
> > > 
> > > In other words, once you start the practice, it
> > > takes seven lifetimes to become enlightened.  So
> > > it only comes into effect *after* the lifetimes
> > > in the rule you cite have taken place.  Tens of
> > > thousands of incarnations to get to the point
> > > where one is attracted to spiritual practice,
> > > seven lifetimes thereafter to become realized.
> > > 
> > The 'rule' if that is in fact what it is, also works if we 
> transcend 
> > our way through the 7 states of consciousness, seeing each one 
as a 
> > lifetime. Then it only takes one lifetime.
> 
> Sorry Jim, but the definition of 'lifetime' in this context is 
> approx. 100 years OR 7 Reincarnations, please keep the 
conversation 
> with the context of which it was intended.
> 
> YOu would be correct if you were talking about the Gita where MMY  
> talks about many 'births' to realize Being, that is death to 
> materiality and Resurrection in Spirit and back being ONE birth, 
but 
> this is NOT what Charlie was suggesting.  BillyG.
>
No need for sorry. I'm not saying the interpretation should be one 
or the other. As I said earlier, it is a very arbitrary, and not a 
very useful equation, imo.





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