--- In [email protected], wmurphy77 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> --- In [email protected], "jim_flanegin" <jflanegi@> 
> wrote:
> >
> > --- In [email protected], wmurphy77 <no_reply@> wrote:
> > >
> > > --- In [email protected], Rick Archer 
> <fairfieldlife@> 
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > on 2/28/06 10:32 AM, wmurphy77 at [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> wrote:
> > > > > 
> > > > > YOu would be correct if you were talking about the Gita 
where 
> > MMY
> > > > > talks about many 'births' to realize Being, that is death to
> > > > > materiality and Resurrection in Spirit and back being ONE 
> > birth, but
> > > > > this is NOT what Charlie was suggesting.  BillyG.
> > > > 
> > > > And who's to say Charlie knew what he was talking about? Nice 
> > guy and 
> > > all
> > > > that, but anyone can regurgitate what they've read in 
esoteric 
> > books.
> > > 
> > > Like I said Rick....7 lifetimes is the best *estimate* I've 
ever 
> > heard 
> > > anyone give for the amount of time it will take for the average 
> > bear to 
> > > reach CC...
> > > 
> > > per, MMY's Gita, one has to be able to submerge into Spirit 
(TC) 
> > fully 
> > > before the cloth in the yellow dye analogy really takes full 
> > effect, 
> > > then indeed CC is not far away.
> > >
> > In my experience, TM seekers don't have a problem with fully 
> > submerging into TC, rather it is how to translate that 
> transcendence 
> > into action, without over intellectualizing it, that creates 
> > resistance to fully integrating TC.
> 
> I'll have to say, Jim, unless you've experienced SAT-Chit-Ananda 
you 
> haven't been transcending fully to Samadhi, that is, Savikalpa 
> Samadhi as MMY describes it in the Gita......this is NOT, I repeat 
> NOT something you EVER forget.  If you think you have NO thoughts 
and 
> NO mantra, but have NO bliss....you are NOT in Samadhi as MMY 
> describes it!
>

er, MMY also says that Bliss isn't blissful.





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