--- In [email protected], "Alex Stanley" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In [email protected], TurquoiseB <no_reply@> wrote: > > > > --- In [email protected], Peter <drpetersutphen@> > > wrote: > > > --- tomandcindytraynoratfairfieldlis > > > <tomandcindytraynoratfairfieldlist@> wrote: > > > > > TorquiseB writes: snipped > > > > > > > > > > Those who say > > > > > that they have experienced the goal that is shared > > > > > by pretty much the entire group (for example, > > > > > enlightenment) are regularly dissed by those in > > > > > the group who have not had such an experience. > > > > > One would think they'd be happy that someone is > > > > > actually getting what they paid for, but the > > > > > reality is sadly often the opposite. > > > > > > > > Particularly here. If I ain't got it how dare you > > > > even insinuate that > > > > you even have a whiff of it. You are not worthy nor > > > > do you have all > > > > the requirements that has been heard on numerous > > > > courses 30 long years > > > > ago forgotten are all the details of even where this > > > > course was but > > > > the exact way it has to be, to be awake has been > > > > memorized in > > > > concrete. Go figure. Quite funny actually. > > > > > > And sad. A collective cheer should go up for > > > realization, not a hiss. The kiss of Mara. > > > > The 'hiss' is the sound of self-loathing. > > > > I'm not talking just about the manifestation > > of this phenomenon in the TM world, but about > > what it seems to be like in *all* of the > > groups I've seen it appear in. > > Have you observed groups in which this phenomenon has not appeared? > TM and Waking Down are the only spiritual groups I've been involved > with, and I've never encountered this phenomenon in Waking Down.
FWIW, I've never encountered it in TM, to the contrary. What I've observed has been a tendency to be deferential to those who claimed or were rumored to be enlightened. On the other hand, I've encountered a certain degree of confusion about the nature of responsibility for behavior in enlightenment-- i.e., folks who were hesitant to criticize the behavior of those who claimed enlightenment, and folks who claimed enlightenment rejecting criticism of their behavior on the grounds that it was really Nature doing the behaving. ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor --------------------~--> Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM --------------------------------------------------------------------~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
