**Comment below** --- In [email protected], Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: **SNIP**
> One disconcerting thing that was obvious very soon and persisted > throughout these sessions was the almost absolute infrequency with > which descriptions ever strayed outside of either established TM- > speak or advaito-speak. It was almost absolutely a closed loop: no > freshness or newness. Although it seemed as if newness and freshness > could be contrived, it was unconvincing compared to the freshness of > the natural state. > **END** In the mid- late-70's my (then) spouse and I led several ATR courses, both at MIU and also at the Soboba Hot Springs Academy near Hemet/San Jacinto. At that time on ATRs Maharishi had course participants break up into small experience groups after lunch and discuss their experiences with each other; essentially mini-satsangs. As course leaders we were supposed to roam around and sit in on the groups for 20 minutes to a half-hour per but not necessarily participate, merely observe. It always seemed "obvious" who was truly having "experiences" because they virtually always reported that they "finally understood" what Maharishi was talking about (regarding some particular feature of enlightenment, or the teaching, etc.) but then they would go on to describe their experiences in a totally unique (and convincing) fashion, oftentimes they were really wonderful expressions of the truth that (for me, at least) really illuminated something in a way that I had not heard before. Others, however, generally parroted the language of Maharishi or occassionally other saints, or lifted things from the Gita but never seemed convincing. I'm not sure which satsang group Vaj is referring to in his post but his last paragraph (above) reminded me of these earlier experiences with a similar or identical dynamic. ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor --------------------~--> Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM --------------------------------------------------------------------~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
