--- In [email protected], "jim_flanegin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
> --- In [email protected], TurquoiseB <no_reply@> 
> wrote:
> >
> <snip> The bottom line is that "TM" is just a brand name for a
> > made-up technique of meditation that is (in my opinion
> > as a former TM teacher) no better than any other tech-
> > nique of meditation, less effective than many, and more
> > likely to produce negative side effects than most. 
> 
> I must respectfully disagree with you there. I personally 
> tried a few different technicques before learning TM, 
> which is the only one which enabled me to unequivocally 
> transcend, easily and on a regular basis.

I have absolutely no problem with you making that
statement, and it being completely true. I had a
different experience. My statement is based on
my experience.

> As to the side effects, I think you'd find that for any 
> technique where transcendence is as regular as with TM. 

I disagree. I have personally experienced types of
meditation in which FOR ME, transcendence was FAR
more regular than TM ever produced, and which pro-
duced no undesirable side effects at all, in me or
in my many friends who were also practicing them.

> The theory espoused about the practice, that it unwinds 
> stresses in the body, rings true for me during the time 
> I've done the technique. 

It doesn't for me, but it's fine to disagree on this.

> For some I would guess, those stresses are deep enough 
> that they don't release very easily. Probably a pretty 
> common event for anyone doing spiritual practice for 
> enough years.

But *not* common in some traditions, traditions that
employ techniques of meditation that really *do* go
back centuries, as opposed to (sorry to say it, but
it's right there in the forward to TM movement publi-
cations) made up by Maharishi and presented as a 
"revival" of ancient knowledge.

I'm really not playing "better/best" here. TM is 
*remarkably* easy to learn and in my opinion effec-
tive in many cases. It's just that I really *have*
experienced other forms of meditation that I found
more effective personally and -- looking at the
spectrum of people practicing them in my presence --
more free of undesirable side effects. If I had to
guess (and a guess is all it is), I would suspect
that these techniques had had more "field testing" 
over the centuries. 

If the TM movement was still interested in actually
teaching TM, at a reasonable cost, I'd say "Good for
them." But I would *not* be able to say, based on
my own experience, either that it was the most 
effective style of meditation I had ever experienced,
or the most problem-free.








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