--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> 
> On Mar 6, 2006, at 3:11 PM, jim_flanegin wrote:
> 
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <vajranatha@> wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >> On Mar 6, 2006, at 11:56 AM, jim_flanegin wrote:
> >>
> >>> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <vajranatha@> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>>
> >>>> He's a good read, esp. if you're tired of the mamby-pamby new
> > age
> >>>> schlock that passes as "eastern wisdom" these days.
> >>>>
> >>>> There's probably something in Vimalananda to upset just abut
> >>>>
> >>> anyone.
> >>>
> >>>> But Aghori tantrics aren't for everyone.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>> Yeah, he comes across as a jerk to me.
> >>
> >> I don't know how valuable it is to judge a person based on a
> > couple
> >> of paragraphs.
> >
> > depends on the couple of paragraphs. You apparently thought those
> > that you excerpted were representative of this fellow.
> 
> No, not at all. They were not presented that way nor were 
intended  
> that way.

OK-
 
> It was really a comment on premature claims to enlightenment and 
his  
> observation as to why that will begin occurring in the west--but 
you  
> haven't responded with anything other than your aversion to him as 
a  
> person.

Right. 
> >>
> >> Suffice to say, if you had a certain way you pre-conceived how a
> >> "good" guru should be, my guess is, he would shatter that.
> >>
> > I'm not thinking of him as a guru. To my way of thinking, 
whether a
> > person bags groceries or is a guru makes little difference how I 
see
> > them. As a person, and from the quotation, he seems like a jerk.
> > Just not my style, that's all.
> 
> Then, other than the human dimension, what dimension would you  
> propose that people who are prone to premature claims of  
> enlightenment incarnate from or from what karmic causes?
>
I am not challenging the assertion the guy made about people 
following false gurus or claiming instant enlightenment in the West. 
Some people would probably find such statements eye-opening. 
Whatever. No problem. 





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