> 2) In 1982, in order to induce people to move to > Fairfield, Maharishi, > with his own mouth, promised all those who would be > good enough to > pack up their lives, lock stock and barrell, and > move to Fairfield to > help establish a group of 1600 would have *wealth > and wisdom* squared.
I heard MMY also said he would personally guarantee the enlightenment of those who moved to Fairfield after the Amherst course. --- anonyff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > At the end of my TTC, in June, 1971, I vaguely > remember Jerry Jarvis > dictating sometning to us in which we promised to > work for the > Students International Meditation Society (SIMS), > International > Meditation Society (IMS) and Spiritual Regeneration > Movement (SRM). I > don't thihk Jerry liked having to add SRM in! > > Peter's point about the movement NOT keeping it's > promises is a MAJOR > point in many people's minds. In fact, in my > opinion, it's the primary > reason so many of us have had to bail out in various > ways at various > times. > > Here are Some of the major promises I can recall > being made and the > movement squelching on. Anyone who can think of > others please post them. > > 1) Initiators were asked to *loan* the movement > their ATR resources to > go out on peace projects to Nicaragua and Iraq > (others please chime in > here). We were PROMISED we would get it all back. > For some people who > had accumulated a couple of thousand dollars of ATR > credit this was a > massive loss. > > 2) In 1982, in order to induce people to move to > Fairfield, Maharishi, > with his own mouth, promised all those who would be > good enough to > pack up their lives, lock stock and barrell, and > move to Fairfield to > help establish a group of 1600 would have *wealth > and wisdom* squared. > I know for myself, and many hundreds of others who > ended up, a mere > few years later living in abject poverty, doing the > shittiest of jobs > in sub-zero weather, living in sh*Tholes, and > eventually having to > leave and get a life, this promise never occurred. > > 3) People, self-included, who were on Vedic Atoms, > were sent to go to > the giant Vedic Science course in India. Many > hundreds of people got > really sick and ended up having to leave. I left > after 9 weeks. I was > told I had to pay the movement back $3000 or I would > never be allowed > on a course again. Who got called and forced into > this situation was > totally arbitrary. > > 4) I know people, actual real people, who paid the > $3000 and then a > year later were told they had to pay back $3000. > When they told the > movement that they already had, they were told there > was no record of > it and some people actually paid it back twice. I > was one of the > people who actually paid the money, I got one of > these calls, and > fortunately (and amazingly) I had the receipt for > the money order. > I wish now I'd never paid it back. > > 5) In the beginning of 1988, Maharishi set up a > Vedic Health > Practitioner Training course in Seelsiberg, > Switzerland. In a > conference call with him, that I and many many > others heard, he > PROMISED that all those people who went on that > course would gain both > the knowledge AND ability to diagnose and treat > people the ayurvedic > way and when we got back, just six weeks later, we > would be trained to > earn a good living. All that happened, as far as I > can tell, is we > spent another $4000, certainly the PROMISE was not > fulfilled. > > > > > --- In [email protected], "sparaig" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > --- In [email protected], "bmorry2000" > <bmorry2000@> > > wrote: > > > > > > we definitely signed something in 1977 when I > became a teacher > > > agreeing only to teach within the movement. > but, never got a copy > > > for our own reference..... > > > > > > > > > > A reminder of a promise made. POssibly not legally > binding, but > > should give one pause, IMHO, before setting out as > an independent > > teacher. > > > > This has nothing to do with trademarks, as far as > I know. > > > > > > > > --- In [email protected], Peter > <drpetersutphen@> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- MDixon6569@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In a message dated 3/6/06 10:06:46 A.M. > Central > > > > > Standard Time, > > > > > fairfieldlife@ writes: > > > > > > > > > > on 3/5/06 11:38 PM, Marek Reavis at > > > > > reavismarek@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > I was made a teacher in Fiuggi in June of > 1972. > > > > > I'm pretty sure I > > > > > > remember Jerry talking to us at some point > about > > > > > our obligations to > > > > > > the teaching and Maharishi in a somewhat > > > > > legal-sounding way but I know > > > > > > that we never signed any document. > > > > > > > > > > I was made a teacher in Estes Park, > December, 1970, > > > > > and we signed one. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I was made an initiator also in June 1972 in > Fiuggi > > > > > and we never signed > > > > > anything. We were read a long "vow", so to > speak, by > > > > > Jerry, to agree to teach TM > > > > > only within the confines of the TM movement > as I > > > > > recall. I don't remember if > > > > > the vow was too Maharishi or to the laws of > Nature > > > > > or just what. I had been > > > > > rounding for 9 months and didn't have an > attorney to > > > > > explain to me what I was > > > > > verbally agreeing to and never saw it in > writing. > > > > > > > > I know it contained a phrase to the effect of > " on the > > > > altar of Guru Dev..." I was Seelisberg, 1973 > having > > > > started out in LaAntilla, then Punta Umbria. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > > > > Do You Yahoo!? > > > > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam > protection around > > > > http://mail.yahoo.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------ Yahoo! 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