--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Irmeli Mattsson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <sparaig@> wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Irmeli Mattsson" > > <Irmeli.Mattsson@> wrote: > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Dean Goodman > > > <Tantra@> wrote: > > > big snip > > > >The trends of time are > > > being changed; Kali herself is being challenged! > > > > > > big snip > > > > > > **** > > > I wonder why in the Hindu beliefsystems the pathologies of the > > > present world are seen as female energies? > > > I personally see the problems being more in patriarchal male > > energies > > > that are very much addicted to power, money and control over others, > > > especially over women. These narcissistic energies are the main > > cause > > > of violence, suffering and poverty in our time. And these tendencies > > > are more prevalent in males. Women have naturally more capacity to > > > empathy. > > > The population explosion is a main cause of poverty and illiteracy. > > > And the subjugation of women is the cause of excessive breeding in a > > > time, when birth control is easily available. > > > Motherhood is the only means to these women get some appreciation. > > > > > > Male chauvinism and patriarchal structures have been challenged with > > > very good results in the west and should be challenged in the east > > also. > > > The concept Kaliyuga tells me that in Hindu culture the males in > > > power project their inner darkness and pathologies on their > > subjugated > > > women. Disgusting! > > > > so what's your take on "Mother Divine" as a Hindu term? > > > > **** > Mother Divine, and Kali as her one aspect, I consider to be important > myths and powerful symbols. > > I understand Mother Divine to represent the all-pervading influence > the mother has in a new born child's world. The mother's influence on > the future development of the child is huge. Many modern psychologists > say that all the important structures in humans are established > during the first three years of life. The way the mother relates to > and communicates with the child largely determines how he/she later in > life relates to people around. The course of the life of an individual > after those important years is just repetition in different external > forms of those early structures. > And in that respect the kali energies are very real also. Mothers are > not perfect. They easily transfer their own pathologies to their children. > > My main criticism of the Kali concept, was the idea of these kali > energies being the cause of the malaise of our time. > > Subjugated women and mothers have very little possibilities of working > through their internal tensions. Submissiveness hides the problems, > and that way they go direct to the next generation. Women should have > in relationships and marriages equal rights to men. Women can evolve > only if they can feel free and safe to express their true nature. > > From one perspective one could say that Kaliyuga is gone, when the > important and highly responsible role of mothers is fully understood, > and men have evolved beyond their patriarchal need for power, control > and a sense superiority over women, and women are encouraged to study > and make their own careers so that they don't need to realize their > own power trips through children. >
You realize, of course, that many of the world's cultures originally had matriarchal societies with matriarchal godesses? Get ahold of _When God Was a Woman_. Also, Evangeline Walton's Mbnogian tetrology tells the legends from the perspective of the transition of female- dominated Ireland to male-dominated Ireland. ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor --------------------~--> Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM --------------------------------------------------------------------~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
