--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On Mar 9, 2006, at 5:27 PM, sparaig wrote: > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <vajranatha@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > On Mar 9, 2006, at 2:22 PM, sparaig wrote: > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <vajranatha@> wrote: > > > > > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> On Mar 9, 2006, at 1:00 PM, shempmcgurk wrote: > > > >> > > > >> > > > >>> I genuinely want to know which techniques out there are > > effortless > > > >>> and do not require concentration. > > > >>> > > > >> > > > >> You must've missed the "TM is not effortless" thread here > > sometime > > > >> ago. TM is *easy* but not truly effortless. > > > >> > > > > > > > > BS. No effort is required to do TM. Some effort mayhappen on > > > > occasssion, and obsessing about how much or how little, if any, is > > > > detrimental, but no effort is required. > > > > > > > > And there are many *easy* > > > > > > > >> meditation methods out there and there are *effortless* forms of > > > >> meditation but they are not necessarily *easy* to do correctly. > > > >> > > > >> It seems like we're mincing words when we talk about this, but > > > >> > > > > styles > > > > > > > >> of meditation which are truly effortless are typically forms of > > non- > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > >> meditation. And there is a big difference. > > > >> > > > >> Even M. admitted this at Estes Park--that TM required some > > effort. > > > >> > > > >> > > > > > > > > So what did he say exactly? > > > > > > It wasn't me who responded. Is this yet another example of Judy > > and > > > Lawson's selective memory? You were here too--this conversation > > > occurred after the alt.med.tm diaspora. :-) > > > > > > > I'm asking YOU what you read. > > I read lots of things. Your point? >
You read something and said "TM requried some effort" according to MMY. I'm asking for the exact words where MMY said that TM "required" effort. ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor --------------------~--> Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM --------------------------------------------------------------------~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/