--- In [email protected], t3rinity <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In [email protected], "sparaig" <sparaig@> wrote: > > --- In [email protected], TurquoiseB <no_reply@> wrote: > > > --- In [email protected], "sparaig" <sparaig@> wrote: > > > > --- In [email protected], "jim_flanegin" <jflanegi@> > > > > wrote: > > > > > --- In [email protected], TurquoiseB <no_reply@> > > > wrote: > > > > > > --- In [email protected], "sparaig" <sparaig@> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > So where do you fall on the bhakti question? > > > > > > > > > > > > I think it's a lot like love -- wonderful when > > > > > > unforced and when it happens naturally, usually > > > > > > a disaster when one has a bunch of expectations > > > > > > and rules about how it's "supposed" to work. > > > > > > > > > > > > In other words, if you made the decision to pursue > > > > > > a bhakti path, you probably aren't on one. :-) > > > > > > > > > > Well said! Innocent affinity (or not) and unfoldment is the > > only > > > > > way that works- otherwise it is just strain... > > > > > > > > So what if your guru DOES ask you to wear a crown in > > > > public? Is it a strain to agonize about your decision > > > > to follow this? > > > > > > If you have to ponder it, even for an instant, > > > you're not a bhakti, no matter what you tell > > > yourself you are. > > > > > > > This is your definition of bhakti? > > No wonder that with such a definition of bhakti you run > into major problems.
No problems. Bhakti is your path, not mine. It would be a 'problem' only if you were trying to sell it. Oh. Never mind. :-) > That makes it clear why Barry thinks there is an inherent > problem in it, and why he doesn't want to have anything > to do with it anymore. As you have been so quick to point out, especially when avoiding the practical implications of bhakti, *you* get to come up with *your* own definition of bhakti. Now when I present part of mine, it's a 'problem.' You don't seen a slight issue with this? :-) > While I agree with the 'innocent affinity', in real life you > simply will have to ponder, and their will be conflicts > between mind and heart etc. Thats part of the path. But...but...but...I was talking about the "sentiment of bhakti." That, to me, is synonymous with being in the first stages of romantic love, head over heels with someone. I'm confused. When I asked *you* about bhaki, you kept falling back on this 'sentiment' idea, and refusing to deal with the practical implications of bhakti the path. Now when I talk about what I consider the 'sentiment' of bhakti, it's a 'problem.' Could you explain this 'problem' to me? :-) > Its also my experience that before this occurance of > bhakti, there is an occurance of an aspiration about > it, a desire to know about it. That may have been how it *was* for you, and that's fine. Me, I would call this 'aspiration' 'mood-making,' but you're free to use whatever term you want. Unlike you, I don't see a 'problem' with that. :-) > Then, at one point, through some help... More mood-making? :-) > ...it may just happen. But then you have to live with > it... You're not possibly talking about the *implications* of bhakti that you refused to talk about yesterday, are you? :-) > ...and all the different parts of your being will be > exposed to it, and 'react', und you will have to deal > with that. Not to mention the implications for how you behave. ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor --------------------~--> Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM --------------------------------------------------------------------~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
