--- In [email protected], "shempmcgurk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Barry: > > Apropos of our discussion regarding effortless meditation and > where > I asked you to give me the names of the meditation techniques that > you claimed were effortless practises (the same as or even more > effortless as TM, you subsequently claimed). You couldn't -- or > wouldn't! -- give me the names of the techniques that you claimed > were effortless techniques but you did, finally, suggest I contact > two Zen meditation centres in Santa Fe, NM. You told me to "go > out and find out on my own". Well, I did...or at least I tried to. > > The two were: Kagyu Shenpen Kunchab and the Upaya Zen Center, as > you wrote in message 90310. > > Well, I could find no contact telephone number for the Kagyu > Shenpen Kunchab Center but I did for the Upaya Zen Center. > After several attempts to speak to someone there, I finally > spoke with "Elizabeth" > at 505 986 8518. According to her, there are only two types of > meditation offered there, both involving concentration: one is a > breath meditation and the other is one where one "practises > awareness". But, she emphasized, both require "lots of effort". > > Now, I suppose that at one time they did offer an effortless > meditation technique but Elizabeth didn't know anything about it. > This would have obviously been at a time that you were visiting > there and received instruction in an effortless meditation > technique. > > Could you describe in a bit more detail the effortless technique > you claim you learned there?
Glad to. It was a walking meditation that involved paying attention to what was going on internally and externally. > Who was it that taught you? A gal from another Zen tradition out in California who was there at Upaya on retreat at the same time I was there. She didn't charge me anything to teach it to me. To tell the thruth, both of us were a little underwhelmed with the Upaya program per se, but it was a quiet and inexpensive place to stay when visiting Santa Fe. > When was it? I have no idea. A few yars before I actually moved to Santa Fe...that would be early to mid 90s, I would imagine. Good luck with your detective work, although I can't help but think that if you were actually serious about wanting to know about another technique of meditation to learn yourself, you'd have been looking closer to where you live. :-) ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor --------------------~--> Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM --------------------------------------------------------------------~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
