--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" > <shempmcgurk@> wrote: > > > > Barry: > > > > Apropos of our discussion regarding effortless meditation and > > where > > I asked you to give me the names of the meditation techniques that > > you claimed were effortless practises (the same as or even more > > effortless as TM, you subsequently claimed). You couldn't -- or > > wouldn't! -- give me the names of the techniques that you claimed > > were effortless techniques but you did, finally, suggest I contact > > two Zen meditation centres in Santa Fe, NM. You told me to "go > > out and find out on my own". Well, I did...or at least I tried to. > > > > The two were: Kagyu Shenpen Kunchab and the Upaya Zen Center, as > > you wrote in message 90310. > > > > Well, I could find no contact telephone number for the Kagyu > > Shenpen Kunchab Center but I did for the Upaya Zen Center. > > After several attempts to speak to someone there, I finally > > spoke with "Elizabeth" > > at 505 986 8518. According to her, there are only two types of > > meditation offered there, both involving concentration: one is a > > breath meditation and the other is one where one "practises > > awareness". But, she emphasized, both require "lots of effort". > > > > Now, I suppose that at one time they did offer an effortless > > meditation technique but Elizabeth didn't know anything about it. > > This would have obviously been at a time that you were visiting > > there and received instruction in an effortless meditation > > technique. > > > > Could you describe in a bit more detail the effortless technique > > you claim you learned there? > > Glad to. It was a walking meditation that involved > paying attention to what was going on internally > and externally. > > > Who was it that taught you? > > A gal from another Zen tradition out in California > who was there at Upaya on retreat at the same time > I was there. She didn't charge me anything to teach > it to me. To tell the thruth, both of us were a little > underwhelmed with the Upaya program per se, but it was > a quiet and inexpensive place to stay when visiting > Santa Fe. > > > When was it? > > I have no idea. A few yars before I actually moved > to Santa Fe...that would be early to mid 90s, I > would imagine. > > Good luck with your detective work, although I > can't help but think that if you were actually > serious about wanting to know about another > technique of meditation to learn yourself, you'd > have been looking closer to where you live. :-) >
I'm not now nor was I interested in learning for myself. I'm happy with TM. I was interested in finding out about claims of other meditation techniques that are as effortless as TM. ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor --------------------~--> Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM --------------------------------------------------------------------~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
