--- In [email protected], "hyperbolicgeometry" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > ---Effortless or not (nothing in the world is "absolutely" effortless > btw); the key point is Transcendental awareness. If it (pure > Consciousness, Self-awareness), occurs for you regardless of the > amount of effort, excellent. > Having exposed the primary goal, the question of effort is important > in distinguishing TM from other traditional forms of meditation which > require forced attention on the mantra. > The fact that something - a method - is effortless is not necessarily > "good" unless it fulfills an objective: here, Transcendental > Consciousness. Countless endeavors are nearly effortless but don't > produce the results in question. > >
The goal of TM is NOT transcendental conciousness. > In [email protected], defenders_of_bhakti <no_reply@> > wrote: > > > > --- In [email protected], defenders_of_bhakti > > <no_reply@> wrote: > > > > > > --- In [email protected], TurquoiseB <no_reply@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Could you describe in a bit more detail the effortless technique > > > > > you claim you learned there? > > > > > > > > Glad to. It was a walking meditation that involved > > > > paying attention to what was going on internally > > > > and externally. > > > > > > Isn't unintentional walking effortless per se? Or is there a > > > difference between intentional effortlessness and unintentional > > > non-effort, in the same way as easy is not the same as effortless, and > > > detached is just different to non-attached? Is it enough that things > > > are effortless, or do we have to experience the effortlessness as > > > well? Could anybody please explain the difference to me, as I am > > > getting confused. > > > > Btw. being the non-doer, it is not 'I' who does the effort, rather the > > effort simply happens, that is is unintentional and therefore truely > > effortless. > > > ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor --------------------~--> Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM --------------------------------------------------------------------~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
