--- In [email protected], "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In [email protected], "sparaig" <sparaig@> wrote: > > > > --- In [email protected], "authfriend" <jstein@> wrote: > > > > > > --- In [email protected], TurquoiseB <no_reply@> > wrote: > > > > > > > > Just a couple of points: > > > > > > > > --- In [email protected], defenders_of_bhakti > > > > <no_reply@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > I agree. Actually, I was just trying to poke some fun on > > > > > the 'walking meditation' supposedly more effortless than > > > > > TM according to some here. > > > > > > > > The meditation *component* of it is, IMO, more > > > > effortless than TM, in that there is no specific > > > > intent -- no mantra, no instruction to focus on > > > > anything in particular, nada. > > > > > > There is no specific intent during TM, either (much > > > less instruction to focus on anything in particular). > > > > Well, there's almost a specific intent inherent in the instructions > > (else, why call them "instructions?") > > There's a case to be made that they *aren't* > instructions, actually... > > In any case, I would contend that after a certain > amount of practice, you aren't doing anything that > could be called "following instructions." Vaj calls > it "conditioning," and that may be an appropriate > term. In which case, there's intent only to the > point where you sit down and close the eyes, then > the conditioning takes over. >
If its really conditioning, than its no longer innocent. While the practice of TM brings about changes in the structure of the brain, I don't think that it involves conditioning inthe usual sense. At best, one becomes confident enough that the practice IS easy to no longer feel a need to try to make it happen. At worse, you assign a value-judgement to one aspect of TM practice to another and latch onto it as the "proper" practice. Of course, im my experience, both extremes happen all the time. > > , but its not something you can > > pin down with strict accuracy. Its a hiesenberg uncertainty > principle > > thang: the more you try to pin it down, the less accurately you > > capture the "intent." > > > > > > > > ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor --------------------~--> Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM --------------------------------------------------------------------~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
