--- In [email protected], defenders_of_bhakti
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> --- In [email protected], "Nelson" <nelsonriddle2001@>
> wrote:
> >
> > --- In [email protected], defenders_of_bhakti
> > <no_reply@> wrote:
> > 
> > > 
> > > I think there is a big confusion of what evolution actually means.
> > > Here some biological definitions:
> > > 
> > > Evolution: The long-term process through which a population of
> > > organisms accumulates genetic changes that enable its members to
> > > successfully adapt to environmental conditions and to better exploit
> > > food resources.
> > > www.accessexcellence.org/AE/AEPC/WWC/1994/glossary.html
> > > 
> > > The change in life over time by adaptation, variation,
> > > over-reproduction, and differential survival/reproduction, a process
> > > referred to by Charles Darwin and Alfred Wallace as natural
selection.
> > > http://www.emc.maricopa.edu/faculty/farabee/BIOBK/BioBookglossE.html
> > > 
> > > In this sense evolution is not the development to a certain
> > > pre-existent goal, but rather the successful adaptaion to a given
> > > environment by a certain organism. Thhis is what trial and error and
> > > natural selection is all about. This makes the idea of an evolving
> > > Creator-God fairly upsurd: How could a Creator adapt to an
> > > environment, he has created himself? It is even more absurd if you
> > > assume an all-knowing God going through trial and error. Pretty much
> > > trial and error can be done by machines, and doesn't require a
creator
> > > at all. That is why evolution, the theory of natural selection is so
> > > much opposed by the creationists.
> > > 
> > > Now one can of course try to transfer the idea of evolution to a
sort
> > > of teleological argument, and that is what many New Agers do.
There is
> > > a goal, a pre-existent ideal to which nature develops. But if God
> > > himself develops, who established the ideal, was it already there or
> > > did he create it? And if he created the ideal, why didn't s/he
create
> > > the ideal creation right away?
> > > 
> > > I think one gets into a big muddle if one tries to combine
> > > evolutionary theories which really don't need any God (like
trial and
> > > error) with creationist ideas. Why should a God evolve, unless
he has
> > > fallen, and is now involved in his own creation? Of course one could
> > > argue, we are all God, and we are all evolving to finally
realize this
> > > potential of ours.
> > > 
> > > Otherwise its a really absurd idea, with the sort of populistic
> > > appeal, the same as that we are all co-creators. It just makes some
> > > people feel more important.
> > > +++ Haven't you observed that you do some creating yourself?  N.
> 
> For me rather anticipation in creation.
>
+++ Thru your choices, you have created yourself.   N.       





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