--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
>
> That's cool- I like that...as if the [TM] mantra's home 
> is that very subtlest level of discrete thought, just 
> preceding no thought or pure awareness. 

While true, isn't *every* perception's "home" the 
very subtlest level of thought?

My feelings about this whole subject of mantras has
been colored by practicing a lot of different tech-
niques, few of which ever use mantras. In many of
them, *anything* can be used as a focus or "starter"
for the meditation, and in my experience, "anything"
works just as well as any mantra.

I still have the feeling that the mechanism that
allows transcendence is *not* the mantra but the
process of paying attention. What you pay attention
to is irrelevant, because *everything* IS the
transcendent.

Mantras may make the process of learning that trans-
cendence is possible easier at the beginning, but
once the process has been established, the mantra
is IMO no more effective than meditating on a donut.








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