--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "claudiouk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > anon_astute: well lucky you, you are so astute... you are 100% sure > the elite are not penny-pinching ...And you are 100% certain.. etc > etc...
> No I don't expect either of us are 100% sure of anything. It's my > opinion, and it's your opinion. That's good enough for me. > > I don't think though the Rajas represent a good focus group. A > political party, for instance, would want a focus group representing > the spectrum of the population, not a group composed of the most > generous party supporters... > > No I wasn't there "in the planning sessions when this unfolded?" > But it's not a minority who think that "the whole unfolding of the > TMO and its activities seems uninformed, mindless and > counterproductive". That is just observable "outcome". > > But clearly you are more hopeful about the TMO and I have no > interest in undermining your positivity and trust; But I just need > an outlet for my own sense of disappointment. I used to be positive > & trusting myself.. > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anon_astute_ff <no_reply@> > wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "claudiouk" <claudiouk@> > wrote: > > > > > > Elites/rich people are typically penny pinchers. They go out of > > > their way to save the odd dollar. > > > > Uh huh. Thats why they shop at Nordstroms and stay at $500 / night > > hotels. > > > > I am not saying they are not looking of a "deal" but its of > theorder > > of saving 15% on a case of $150/bottle Merlot. > > > > > They > > > want also the "badges" of the elite - designer labels etc to > > > demonstrate that money is no object when it comes to show their > > > appreciation of "quality" and celebrate their "belonging" to a > > > priviledged group. > > > > Um, but they penny pinch when doing so, right? > > > > > The trouble, for MMY, is that whilst TM may > > > represent "quality" so do other techniques such as Buddhist > ones, > > > now also boasting scientific validation; moreover there is a > global > > > traditional "culture" of spirituality that is clearly at odds > with > > > the materialism of the TMO, which therefore makes it suspect. > And as > > > others have pointed out, as soon as anyone investigates the > TMO's > > > public image there are not one but a huge number of things that > are > > > off-putting. The TMO is just not "cool", it's downright > embarassing. > > > > And you are 100% certain this will be the case in ten years, when > the > > new wave of Lynch (and other) funded research MAY be published in > > premier journals, gorgeous real good-vibe peace palaces MAY be in > > every wealthy neighborhood, and neo-TM teachers MAY be from "elite" > > families, socialy connected and adept, and dripping with ojas and > > peacefulness, doing program 6-8 hours a day? > > > > > If attracting the elite was the objective then it would have > made > > > sense to get elite advice on how to do this. > > > > Um, getting several hundred people willing to pay one million seems > > like a darn good focus group to me. > > > > > The reason so many of > > > us are baffled, > > > > the non-elites, right? > > > > > I think, is that the whole unfolding of the TMO and > > > its activities seems uninformed, mindless and counterproductive. > > > > And you have been there in the planning sessions when this > unfolded? > > You are 100% certain there is no substance to M.'s 50-100 years > plans > > for the org? > > > > > The > > > only thing that makes any overall sense > > > > sense to to you, right? Not sense in an objective sense,right? > > > > > is the "money-grabbing > > > tunnel-vision" interpretation; > > > > And yours is NOT a tunnel-vision" interpretation? > > > > > and a systematic avoidance of putting > > > the large pundit groups effect to the test (MMY could have done > it > > > with his own resources decades ago). > > > > You know this as 100% certain, and you know all of the tradeoffs > and > > factors involved inthe decision? Glad to see TM as made you so > > arrogance-free. > > > > >There is too much ignorance and > > > denigration of what good already exists around > > > > around this post? > > > > > - beautiful buildings > > > and cities, democratic principles, human rights, musical and > visual > > > sophistication, sublime spiritual icons. > > > > > In their place wooden, > > > ridiculous, robotic figures are exaulted as infallible authority > > > figures > > > > You know the rajas personally? Now? I saw a video of Raja Felix. He > > did a good job, mannerism wise -- not wooden at all. Bright, > corgial, > > humerous, relaxed. And his wife was quite beautiful,graceful, and > down > > to earth. > > > > > > > who seem as unspiritual > > > > again, you hang with the rajas and have a basis for a cogent > opinion? > > > > >This doesn't seem a good return on such personal investment for > > > anyone, let alone an "elite"! > > > > Well, lucky for you, you are not an elite and won't have to make > that > > decisions. > > > ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor --------------------~--> Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM --------------------------------------------------------------------~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! 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