--- In [email protected], "shempmcgurk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>
> --- In [email protected], TurquoiseB <no_reply@> 
> wrote:
> >
> > --- In [email protected], "shempmcgurk" 
> > <shempmcgurk@> wrote:
> > > > > TorquiseB writes: snipped
> > > > > Whatever the specifics were, the bottom line was always
> > > > > the same -- pretense. Pretending that the actuality of
> > > > > the life of a TMer conformed to Maharishi's claims of
> > > > > what the life of a TMer should be. And woe be unto him
> > > > > who pulls back the curtain on that pretense and reveals
> > > > > it for what it is.
> > > 
> > > You really should qualify your use of the term "TMer", TorquiseB.
> > > 
> > > I think it should read "TMOer" because that's really what you 
> > > are referring to: someone in the TM organisation that takes 
> > > instructions from the TMO and MMY.
> > > 
> > > That's NOT a TMer: a TMer is one who practises the TM program 
> > > and doesn't follow a guru nor is involved in the TMO.
> > 
> > That's actually a good point, and I agree with it.
> > 
> > However, it should be obvious from a few people
> > here that you don't actually have to have any
> > position within the TM organization to be as 
> > much of a True Believer as those who are. In
> > fact, I think that sometimes it actually *helps*
> > to perpetuate one's illusions about Maharishi
> > to have never met him, or even seen him, except
> > on videotape.
> >
> 
> I would suspect though that the vast majority of people that 
> practise the TM technique are NOT associated with the TMO or MMY in 
> any way, shape or form.
> 
> Although I have no statistics to rely on, we all know that hundreds 
> of thousands of Americans -- as well as others across the world -- 
> did indeed start TM in the '70s and '80s and at least some are still 
> practising it.  These people are NOT TBers.
>

Do you think there are 20,000 still meditating in the US and Canada? 

JohnY





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