--- In [email protected], TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
>
> --- In [email protected], "authfriend" <jstein@> 
> wrote:
> > --- In [email protected], "shempmcgurk" 
<shempmcgurk@> 
> > wrote:
> > > --- In [email protected], "authfriend" <jstein@> 
> > > wrote:
> > <snip>
> > > > > The one thing that these three posters have in
> > > > > common?  All three have a history of being a little 
> > > > > light in the loafers in terms of personal, subjective 
> > > > > spiritual experience
> > > > 
> > > > Interesting that Barry claims to know our
> > > > history of personal, subjective spiritual
> > > > experience.
> > > > 
> > > > , and all three have a history of 
> > > > > reacting badly and agressively when people here who 
> > > > > *have* had such experiences choose to report them.
> > > > 
> > > > In fact, only one of us has done so (the
> > > > person currently posting as anon_sleuth_ff).
> > > > 
> > > > Oh, wait, Shemp *did* have some questions about
> > > > Barry's claim to have seen Frederick Lenz
> > > > levitate that Barry didn't appreciate.
> > > 
> > > That was nothing compared to the deeply spiritual way that 
Barry 
> > > responded to my request that he actually tell us which other 
> > > spiritual techniques that he claimed that were out there that 
> > > were "effortless".
> > 
> > There really isn't anything much lower-vibe than
> > claiming those who criticize you do so because they
> > haven't had as much "personal, subjective spiritual
> > experience" as you have.
> 
> I was merely citing your *own* words, back on
> a.m.t. when you were a little more honest, and
> stated freely (many times) that you had never had 
> any experience of enlightenment/witnessing in activity
> that had lasted more than a couple of minutes after
> program (as opposed to, say, several days, weeks,
> months or years, as reported by other posters there). 
> 
> Then for some reason you stopped admitting your lack
> of such experiences publicly, and started hinting that 
> what you'd said before wasn't the whole story. Whatever.  :-)
> 
> Here's your opportunity to set the record straight:




...and hereafter Barry becomes the New Age's Joe McCarthy...





> Have you ever had an experience of 24/7 witnessing
> (the experience you yourself tend to associate with
> CC) that has lasted longer than a couple of minutes?
> For example, have you ever had such an experience 
> that has ever lasted an hour?  A day?  Several days?
> A week?  Two weeks?  A month?  A year?
> 
> If you don't answer, you can hardly base us for assuming
> that your experience is limited to what you used to talk
> about before you stopped talking about such things.  :-)
> 
> > It certainly makes the point that having spiritual
> > experiences does not a spiritual person make, though.
> 
> Yeah, we know that's your position.  Interesting
> position for someone who's never *had* those 
> experiences to take, eh?  :-)  :-)  :-)
>






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