--- In [email protected], TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> --- In [email protected], "authfriend" <jstein@> 
> wrote:
<snip>
> > There really isn't anything much lower-vibe than
> > claiming those who criticize you do so because they
> > haven't had as much "personal, subjective spiritual
> > experience" as you have.
> 
> I was merely citing your *own* words, back on
> a.m.t. when you were a little more honest, and
> stated freely (many times) that you had never had 
> any experience of enlightenment/witnessing in activity
> that had lasted more than a couple of minutes after
> program (as opposed to, say, several days, weeks,
> months or years, as reported by other posters there). 
> 
> Then for some reason you stopped admitting your lack
> of such experiences publicly, and started hinting that 
> what you'd said before wasn't the whole story. Whatever.  :-)

In the first place, using a lack of personal experience
to attack someone because they've criticized you is
inherently low-vibe.  As I said, it doesn't get much
lower.

So it's not any the less low-vibe to use what someone
has said about their personal experience to one
audience for the purpose of attacking that person
before a different audience.

In the third place, it's downright moronic to assume
that a person's spiritual experience is *static*--
that what they've reported at one point is never
going to change.

> Here's your opportunity to set the record straight:

No, I don't discuss my spiritual experience on demand,
as I've told you many times before.  I'll talk about
it when and if I feel like talking about it; I don't feel 
the need, as you obviously do, to boast about it or
play dueling experiences in an attempt to put somebody
down.

> Have you ever had an experience of 24/7 witnessing
> (the experience you yourself tend to associate with
> CC) that has lasted longer than a couple of minutes?
> For example, have you ever had such an experience 
> that has ever lasted an hour?  A day?  Several days?
> A week?  Two weeks?  A month?  A year?
> 
> If you don't answer, you can hardly base us for assuming
> that your experience is limited to what you used to talk
> about before you stopped talking about such things.  :-)

Well, yes, one can certainly "base" (I think you meant
"blame") you for making that assumption.  It makes no
sense, for one thing, as noted.  Also as noted, your
tendency both to make boastful claims about your own
spiritual experience and to use it as a weapon against
your critics when they decline to do the same reveals
that, as I said:

> > It certainly makes the point that having spiritual
> > experiences does not a spiritual person make, though.
> 
> Yeah, we know that's your position.  Interesting
> position for someone who's never *had* those 
> experiences to take, eh?  :-)  :-)  :-)

It would be for someone who's never had spiritual
experiences, yes indeed.  Were you perhaps assuming
that *only* those who had never had spiritual
experiences would take that position?

Now, would you like to attempt to justify your other
major misstatement as well?  To wit:

and all three have a history of
> > > > reacting badly and agressively when people here who
> > > > *have* had such experiences choose to report them.







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