--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anon_couscous_ff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <sparaig@> wrote:
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anon_couscous_ff 
<no_reply@> 
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <sparaig@> 
wrote:
> > > >
> > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anon_couscous_ff 
> > <no_reply@> 
> > > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > [...]
> > > > Answering  questions can be a catalyst deeper understanding,
> > > > > to bring light to unexplored perspectives and nuances.
> > > > >
> > > > 
> > > > But, at least in the case of CC, which is held to be purely 
due 
> > to a 
> > > > mechanical process of meditation alternated by 
activity, "deeper 
> > > > understanding" seems to be a contradiction in terms.
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > Certainly, the witnessing people studied by the TMO just show 
a 
> > > > progressively stronger merging of the meditative state with 
the 
> > normal 
> > > > states of waking, dreaming and sleeping. There's no evidence 
that 
> > their 
> > > > state was enhanced/speeded up by any intellectual process.
> > > 
> > > And I didn't say it was "that their 
> > >  state was enhanced/speeded up by any intellectual process."
> > > 
> > >  And I was making a general statement about all higher states, 
not
> > > just cc. 
> > > 
> > > I stand by my statement: "Answering  questions can be a catalyst
> > > deeper understanding, to bring light to unexplored perspectives 
and
> > > nuances" [OF UNDERSTANDING]. [implied]
> > >
> > 
> > Understanding of CC, beyond its existence, seems a futile thing 
to 
> > worry about, unless you're really into understanding things for 
their 
> > own sake.
> > 
> > As forthe rest, I'll take MMY's claim about floating and Unity as 
> > valid: answering "can you float?" with a "yes" is a sine qua non 
for 
> > rightfully claiming Unity. Note that MMY has NEVER claimed Unity, 
BTW.
> 
> Well, I am glad you have heard all his talks and discussions. Thats
> quite an achievement. I didn't know you had been around him so
> extensively.
> 
> But Bevan clearly claimed it for him. In Intro to Gita and other
> places. Does Bevan do anything, particularly something like this
> proclamation, without MMY's blessings?
>

Perhaps MMY DOES believe he's in Unity, but isn't willing to admit to 
it for the reasons the TMO gives for not claiming enlightenment. 
Perhaps he IS in Unity by his definition, who can say (without 
watching him try to float and either suceed or fail, that is...)?.





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