Following Judy's theme (hers was a funny, if not pointed post of two
links), here are two more MUST reads for Barry. Everyone could benefit
too I am sure.


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Editorial Reviews
Amazon.com
"One of the most salient features of our culture is that there is so
much bullshit," Harry G. Frankfurt writes, in what must surely be the
most eyebrow-raising opener in modern philosophical prose. "Everyone
knows this. Each of us contributes his share. But we tend to take the
situation for granted." This compact little book, as pungent as the
phenomenon it explores, attempts to articulate a theory of this
contemporary scourge--what it is, what it does, and why there's so
much of it. The result is entertaining and enlightening in almost
equal measure. It can't be denied; part of the book's charm is the
puerile pleasure of reading classic academic discourse punctuated at
regular intervals by the word "bullshit." More pertinent is
Frankfurt's focus on intentions--the practice of bullshit, rather than
its end result. Bullshitting, as he notes, is not exactly lying, and
bullshit remains bullshit whether it's true or false. The difference
lies in the bullshitter's complete disregard for whether what he's
saying corresponds to facts in the physical world: he "does not reject
the authority of the truth, as the liar does, and oppose himself to
it. He pays no attention to it at all. By virtue of this, bullshit is
a greater enemy of the truth than lies are."

This may sound all too familiar to those of use who still live in the
"reality-based community" and must deal with a world convulsed by
those who do not. But Frankfurt leaves such political implications to
his readers. Instead, he points to one source of bullshit's
unprecedented expansion in recent years, the postmodern skepticism of
objective truth in favor of sincerity, or as he defines it, staying
true to subjective experience. But what makes us think that anything
in our nature is more stable or inherent than what lies outside it?
Thus, Frankfurt concludes, with an observation as tiny and perfect as
the rest of this exquisite book, "sincerity itself is bullshit."
--Mary Park 


9 of 12 people found the following review helpful:
The Best Kind of Humor, October 20, 2005
Reviewer:       Becky - See all my reviews
The kind of humor I like is deadly serious and absurd at the same
time. That's the kind of humor you will find in "On B.....t".

I read the first half of it while waiting for a friend to finish
getting dressed. Looking at me quizzically while I chuckled and
laughed out loud, he said he had found the book "boring" and
"incomprehensible".

Maybe you have to have an advanced degree in philosophy or linguistics
or logic to appreciate it. I have had to write this kind of prose
myself and so the very classical form of the little essay, as well as
its precise and accurate language, applied to such an ignominious
topic, is to me, in itself, a source of pure delight.

A few months later, the friend gave the book to me and so I was able
to read it all, over and over again one night before dropping off to
sleep. I realized that despite what one might take as satire in the
best of traditions, the author is highly serious in his examination
and, what's more, it is a work of great beauty. Many other reviewers
have given the substance of the book, so I will only add that it goes
purely against the antinomian grain of American culture. A masterpiece.

I'm going to buy 10 copies to give to friends over the holidays.

32 of 35 people found the following review helpful:
Does no one get the joke?, December 27, 2005
Reviewer:       cglambdin "cglambdin" (Kansas) - See all my reviews
After reading the reviews in this forum it is clear that virtually no
one gets the point of "On Bulls!#t." Harry Frankfurt's "On Bulls!#t,"
which is a popular essay that has been reprinted as this little book,
is one, big, brilliant, joke. And that's why it's so darn good.
Unfortunately, it seems that most all reviewers, even those who have
sung the book's praises, simply don't get the joke.

This book is multilayered. It "works" on two levels. To simply look at
this book on its face is to miss its entire point! "On Bulls!#t" is
not the pedantic analysis of the concept of "BS" that it superficially
presents itself as being: it is much more. Those reviewers who slam
the little book, saying it is itself nothing but "BS," are getter
warmer, getting closer to "getting" the joke, but alas, none of the
reviews I've read here quite hit the nail on the head.

Taken on its face, Frankfurt's "On Bulls!#t" is a witty philosophical
analysis of the concepts of "BS," and "humbug," how they differ, how
"BS" differs from a lie, and why it is a greater enemy of the "truth"
than a lie is. "On Bulls!#t" works on two levels because, while
Frankfurt is setting up what some may take to be a 70-page shaggy-dog
story, he actually does have a few astute and important things to say,
as when he argues that one of the reasons why there is so much BS out
there is that in democratic societies most people feel it's their DUTY
to have an opinion about virtually everything, including a great many
things they know little-to-nothing about. This is unfortunate, for
when the claims in one's orations exceed their supported and valid
knowledge on the subject, BS is the natural result. Also interesting
is when Frankfurt comments on those who deny the possibility of valid
"objective" knowledge about the external world, and how this also
results in relativistic "BS." Aside from being interesting to read,
some of Frankfurt's arguments are just plain laugh-out-loud funny, as
when he explains how hot air is like excrement, or when he analyzes
the famous interaction between Pascal and Wittgenstein.

With all this said, let us now return to the main point of this
review: that all interesting passages aside, "On Bulls!#t" is actually
one big joke played on the reader, as revealed by the little book's
brilliant last line (I won't give it away). Only if one gets the joke
will one get the important and powerful point of the book. Nothing
Frankfurt actually SAYS in "On Bulls!#t" should be taken too
seriously. Though the book is on its face a philosophical analysis of
the concept of "BS," as many reviewers here have noticed, while
analyzing the word, Frankfurt doesn't provide us with much more than a
bunch of it. In other words, the book itself IS A BUNCH OF BS. The
important point that so many reviewers have missed is that HE'S DOING
IT ON PURPOSE; he's feeding us BS to make his point. Some
philosophers, such as Wittgenstein, think that it's much more powerful
to SHOW someone your point rather than TELL them. That's what
Frankfurt is doing. The very point of his brilliant essay "On
Bulls!#t," IS THAT THE VERY KIND OF PHILOSOPHICAL ANALYSIS ON DISPLAY
IN THE BOOK IS NOTHING BUT A BUNCH OF BS. Rather than explicitly
arguing that this is the case, Frankfurt deceptively and cleverly
makes his point by showing us, by mocking such philosophical analyses
in general while meaninglessly expounding upon the concept of BS. In
other words, he's feeding us a crock of what he considers BS while at
the same time offering writing that many consider to be what
philosophers do. That he doesn't totally take himself seriously in the
book is telegraphed by several absurd passages, (such as when he
mockingly and repeatedly [supposedly] quotes the Oxford English
Dictionary--it shocks me that anyone would take him seriously when his
only resource is a bloody dictionary!!) and if the reader hasn't
picked up on this fact by the end of the essay, he throws on the last
line, which should be a dead giveaway. Sadly, however, many people
just don't seem to get his joke.



12 of 16 people found the following review helpful:
Finally a perfect explanation!, December 28, 2005
Reviewer:       Dagmar F. Pelzer (Miami, Florida) - See all my reviews
(REAL NAME)   
Frankfurt is just plain good. His philosophical discourse is short and
concise, as a philosophical piece should be. I loved his fine
excursion into a possible translation from or into other languages or
cultures. He is absolutely right, Bulls**t (how absurd to have to
write it like this!) is a truly American word. It cannot be
translated. It has a very unique meaning and feeling. It is what we
are surrounded with and recognize, it is neither lie nor half-truth.
It is whatever someone at the needed moment invents to make him- or
herself interesting or important. How many of us have come away from
meetings and have thought, oh, what bullsh**t. How many times have we
listened to news reports and thought exactly the same thing. Yes, they
do that in other languages too, but they don't have such a perfect word!

Harry Frankfurt is a respected philosopher. I understand he wrote this
short discourse on a fluke, not expecting publication of this kind. He
uses the word as a noun, a verb, combined with other words, only in
part. My favorite quote is one where he describes the person who
does,the bullsh**tter: "He does not care whether the things he says
describe reality correctly. He just picks them out, or makes them up,
to suit his purpose." Ah, we all know people like that!




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Editorial Reviews
The Guardian
"He ruthlessly exposes logical flaws and sheer nonsense. . . in
likably angry and witty style."

Review
The Times : "[Whyte] whets a long knife of ultra-rationalism on the
cold stone of logic, and death by a thousand cuts is inflicted on
prejudice, statistics, morality, religion, weasel words, and seductive
sirens such as politicians, New Agers, advertising executives, and, of
course, journalists who expect you to be persuaded by anything other
than facts."
The Guardian : "He ruthlessly exposes logical flaws and sheer
nonsense. . . in likably angry and witty style." 

339 of 347 people found the following review helpful:
Read it and give it to everyone you know, October 28, 2004
Reviewer:       Gulley Jimson (Bethesda, MD) - See all my reviews
This book deserves the widest possible exposure in America, especially
so close to the election, because it an excellent primer on how to
guard yourself against the faulty reasoning that governs so much
modern political discourse - and avoid adopting it yourself. I first
heard about the book because one of its points was mentioned in an
essay. The point was basically that just because someone has a motive
to hold a certain position doesn't necessarily mean that the position
is false. This seemed pretty obvious, but as I turned to the media I
was amazed at how often politicians use this method, and how easily I
had accepted their claims if they lined up with my political preferences.

Any damaging report against either side, for example, would frequently
be denounced as a "partisan" attack, with occasional documentation of
how the person who presented the report was tied to one party or
another, as if this were the issue at hand. No attempt was made to
address whether the report was true or not, the assumption being that
exposing a bias - a motive for the potentially false information - was
conclusive evidence.

Some of the things Whyte discussed in the book - for example, sample
bias in statistics - are going to be familiar to many people, but just
as frequently he comes up with something that all of us have probably
used in an argument. For example, in the chapter "begging the
question," he quotes a common pro-choice argument: "If you believe
abortion is wrong, that's fine, don't abort your pregnancies. But show
tolerance toward others who don't share your beliefs."

He points out that this ignores that actual position of
anti-abortionists, that abortion is murder, morally equivalent to
killing a live human being. The argument for tolerance takes for
granted that the fetus is not really a person, and that therefore it
should be possible for everyone to only be concerned with their own
behavior. But as Whyte points out, anyone that actually wishes to
confront the issue will have to address the question of whether the
fetus is a human being. So many pleas for tolerance between certain
feuding religions, he points out, have the same problem, because they
skirt the genuine issue that is giving rise to the outrage - that, by
the tenets of some religions, only one of them can be true.

I suspect Whyte's positions on religion will offend the most readers.
He has no sympathy for familiar arguments about the un-knowable nature
of god, or that the intricacy of life on earth necessarily implies a
god (already taken apart by Hume in the Dialogues Concerning Natural
Religion); he also presents a simple and conclusive refutation of
Pascal's gambit that I've never come across before. Luckily, he does
not exhibit the most annoying characteristic of many rationalists,
smugness; instead, he seems to have a deep desire to get at truth,
which I think we are more in need of today than any amount of vague piety.

The book will only take a couple of days to read, and is very clearly
written. I remember an article that dealt with similar material that I
read in high school, forgotten now because it ended up as an exercise
in memorizing the Latin names of various fallacies. Whyte is
conscientious about calling things by their common names. Buy the
book, give it to your friends, and try to get at the bottom of why you
believe what you do (and whether you still should).



162 of 184 people found the following review helpful:
An Excellent Summary Despite Its Tone, March 31, 2005
Reviewer:       Timothy Haugh (New York, NY United States) - See all my reviews
(TOP 500 REVIEWER)    (REAL NAME)   
There is much about this book that I like very much. Mr. White's
ability to see the logical flaws in an argument is impressive and
there are few things that would benefit this world more than if more
people had the ability to see if they were being misled by their
politicians, pundits and religious leaders. A serious reader of this
book would certainly gain more tools in this difficult task.

On the other hand, in my opinion this book does have one weakness: its
dismissive tone. There is a subtle air of superiority that Mr. White
projects in his prose that I find disheartening. Though he pays lip
service to the fact that it can be very difficult to spot certain
logical fallacies, particularly as we are bombarded by opinions
disguised as fact 24 hours a day through the media, he does not seem
very sympathetic the fact that many people do try their best to work
there way through the morass of opinions despite being hampered by
media overkill, prominent positions demanding action, their own
strongly held opinions and the lack of a prestigious education. Mr.
White has much to teach but it is difficult to swallow when the
student is made to feel small and foolish.

I am particularly disappointed by Mr. White's dismissiveness towards
religion. Though I agree completely with his assertion that religious
tenets (like the existence of God, etc.) cannot be proved logically
and that many religious leaders misuse logic severely, I do not agree
that this is sufficient to dismiss religious experience out of hand.
Granted, I am a person of religious belief, but I am also a
mathematician and I would argue that there are things that are true
that cannot be proved. But I'm sure Mr. White, chuckling sadly and
looking down his nose at me, would disagree.

Still, this does not change my opinion that this is a very powerful
book that should be widely read. Much of his analysis--begging the
question, coincidence, statistical analysis--I have seen expounded
upon more widely in other books but Mr. White's book is concise and
ranges much more widely. Anyone trying to get a handle on our world
today would benefit from reading it.

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Some good training in logic, but an unfortunate tone, April 9, 2006
Reviewer:       L. S. Jaszczak "servant of the secret fire" - See all my reviews
(REAL NAME)   
This short book provides a good guide to a lot of the nonsense that is
spewed at us every day by people who want to persuade us to believe
them, but are either too lazy or unprepared to have a good argument or
are just plain WRONG. Whyte provides examples of everything from the
argument from authority ("Because I [God, the experts, etc.] said
so!") to the jargon of management consultants ("intellectual capital
leverage reveals significant upward potential moving forward") and
sloppy thinking (correlation equals causality). I would think that the
average person (including myself) can learn a lot from him about
listening more carefully to what people are telling us and exposing
their flaws in logic.

However, as other reviewers have noted, Whyte does project an aura of
superiority that many will find annoying. I have a pretty good idea
what his political biases are (which I should not be able to figure
out if he is indeed perfectly logical), and his attitude towards
religion (contemptuous dismissiveness) is not going to win him any
friends among the 90-some percent of Americans who believe in God. I
would think he could adopt a more conciliatory tone in that area, but
that may not go with his stance of ruthless honesty.

I believe that this book is a "translation" from British English, and
I could wish that he had also "translated" at least some of his
examples. I particularly found one dealing with cricket to be
confusing, although after much head-scratching I did manage to figure
it out.







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