--- In [email protected], "Patrick Gillam" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
>
> --- authfriend wrote:
> >
> > The decision Pharaoh was being forced to make (by God,
> > not by the Jews themselves, according to the Hebrew
> > Scriptures) was to let the Israelites leave Egypt,
> > where Pharaoh had held them in slavery and slaughtered
> > all *their* firstborn male children, and subsequently
> > all their male newborns.
> > 
> > Not as efficient as Hitler's genocide, of course, but
> > then that was a pre-technological age.
> > 
> > And of course Passover does not commemorate the 
> > slaughter of Egyptian children, it commemorates God
> > having saved the children of the Israelites from
> > *being* slaughtered: the angel who was killing the
> > Egyptian children *passed over* the children of the
> > Israelites.
> 
> This a more palatable story, to be sure. "We were 
> persecuted, but did not have to rise up and kill in 
> our defense. Instead, God did our killing for us."

It's actually *the* story.  Ain't no other story.
(I can hear Barry revving his engines now.)  Anything
else is a story *about* the story.

(Collective "you," not personal "you," Patrick, meant
from here on.)

Now if you want to make up a story about how it was
really the Israelites who ran around killing Egyptian
children, and that the bible story is a scam, fine,
just make it clear that's what you're doing.

Likewise if you want to dump on the God of the Hebrew
Scriptures and declare that anyone who believes in
such a cruel God is a terrible person--or just dump on
the idea of God in general--fine, but again, make it
clear that's what you're doing.

But don't misrepresent the story itself.  In the story,
the Israelites weren't terrorists, they were being
slaughtered themselves; and Jews today don't celebrate
the slaughter of the Egyptian children, they celebrate
their escape from bondage and attempted genocide.




 
> 
>   Violence I can't abide
>   I have no wish for genocide
>   But if you wish to take my life
>   Remember God is on my side
>






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