--- In [email protected], Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> 
> On Apr 17, 2006, at 8:52 AM, sparaig wrote:
> 
> > --- In [email protected], Vaj <vajranatha@> wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > On Apr 17, 2006, at 8:18 AM, TurquoiseB wrote:
> > >
> > > > --- In [email protected], Vaj <vajranatha@> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Actually the techniques mentioned in the article have a
> > > > > long and continuous history of producing fully enlightened
> > > > > Buddhas.
> > > >
> > > > Yeah, but they're not TM, so how good
> > > > can they possibly be? Get a grip, man.
> > >
> > > Gives me another bumper-sticker idea:
> > >
> > > "I'd Rather Be Unstressing"
> > >
> >
> > So where is the mention of witnessing sleep in all of this? 
Wallace
> > (the Samatha researcher) doesn't mention it that I saw.
> 
> No he doesn't, although the techniques of witnessing are commonly  
> applied nightly by practitioners of this tradition. He does teach 
how  
> to do it.
>

Lucid dreaming is different than witnessing dreaming. Even the lucid 
dreaming folk (other than these guys apparently) make that 
distinction these days.





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