--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin" <jflanegi@> > wrote: > > > > I prefer TM, and have reached my own conclusions about it. > > If someone sees benefit in another technique, fine, whether > > it produces the same results, or not. > > > > Scientific facts are great to substantiate our views, but > > rarely do they change them, imo. Science operates primarily > > in the realm of the intellect, whereas beliefs are held in > > the heart. > > Scientific facts are also sometimes used as "stand-ins" > for experiences that people have not had personally. For > example, if the practice in question is theoretically > supposed to produce enlightenment experiences but the > practitioner has never had enlightenment experiences > personally, he or she can point to the research and > say, "See...enlightenment does happen as a result of > practicing technique X," and feel better about contin- > uing his or her practice of that technique. In such a > case, the research serves as intellectual fodder, but > it also serves as an emotional "carrot." > > And I guess this is fine, except that the map is not > the territory. The scientific "measurements" of > enlightenment are never going to be enlightenment. > > The studies done on higher states of consciousness are > always, in my opinion, going to be playing "catch up" > to the real thing, trying to describe or measure some- > thing that can only be experienced, and that by its > very nature can never be described or measured. >
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