--- In [email protected], Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> 
> On Apr 18, 2006, at 6:29 PM, sparaig wrote:
> 
> > --- In [email protected], Vaj <vajranatha@> wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > On Apr 18, 2006, at 5:30 AM, sparaig wrote:
> > >
> > > > > > I suspect that what you call transcending is not the 
same  
> > as what
> > > > > > TMers call transcending. Given that TMers don't report
> > > > transcending
> > > > > > during TM until after-the-fact, this is hardly 
surprising...
> > > > >
> > > > > It'd probably depend on what *style* of shamatha you were 
doing.
> > > > For
> > > > > ex. there is a form of shamatha that traces the seed 
syllable  
> > back
> > > > to
> > > > > it's source--silence--much like TM.
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > TM *can* do this. Is this the goal of this style of 
meditation,  
> > or is
> > > > it merely a description of an idealized outcome?
> > >
> > > It's just one of the styles of shamatha, that's all--the  
> > beginning part.
> > >
> > > Don't get so stuck in your paradigm.
> > >
> >
> > So you think its a good thing to have this as a goal?
> 
> 
> Being stuck in a paradigm? I wouldn't recommend getting stuck in 
*any  
> thing*.
>

Having as a goal during meditation "the tracing a seed syllable back 
to its source -- silence."





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