wrote:
>
> --- In [email protected], "shempmcgurk"
> <shempmcgurk@> wrote:
> >
> > In Arizona we have a state-sponsored plan where if you're self-
> > employed (employees: 1 to 50) you can get a health insurance
plan -
> -
> > HMO or PPO -- with guarantee issue, regardless of health status.
> > There is a 12-month elimination period for pre-existing
> > conditions but doesn't matter what they are, they kick in
> > and are covered after the elimination period...AND if you're
> > covered for these pre-existing conditions under an existing
> > plan you're on and are switching over to the state plan,
> > then you're covered.
> >
> > All members of your family are covered.
> >
> > If you're on a group plan, though, and you want to go on
> > this plan, you have to wait 6 months (this was an amendment
> > to the law by the private health insurance companies.
> >
> > When I first got health insurance back in '96 I paid $80.00
> > a month. Four years later it went up to $600.00 a month. I
> > switched over to the state-sponsored plan and it costs me
> > only $260.00 a month!
>
> Yeah, I used to pay $600 a month in the US, too. Now,
> in France, for a policy that offers more coverage
> than I used to get in the US for that price, I pay
> 230 Euros ($290). Per year.
>
Yeah, but you gotta live in France to get it.
Your comment reminds me of what this Haitian woman used to say to me
when I worked in a Bodega in New York City one summer when I was
about 16. We sold produce which included avocados. I forget the
exact price we used to sell them at but say they were then selling
for 39 cents each.
Well, this Haitian woman would come in (and she'd do this at least
once a week) and she would pick up an avocado and ask us: "How much
are the avocados?" And we'd reply: "39 cents each!" And she'd get a
look of disdain on her face, discard the avocado she was holding
back onto the pile of them and say quite self-righteously: "Well, in
MY country they sell for 2 cents each!" And then she's walk off in a
huff.
After a while, we started to say to her: "Yeah, but it's going to
cost you $300.00 to fly DOWN to Haiti to get it at that price!"
Big deal, Barry, so you get subsidized health care at $290 per
year. You do realize, don't you, that it is subsidized and there is
no free lunch and that someone is paying for it...like maybe taxes?
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