--- In [email protected], "hugheshugo"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> --- In [email protected], bob_brigante <no_reply@>
> wrote:
>
>
> Sorry to reignite this again but I have a few questions.
>
>
> >> There are many bodies beyond the orbit of Saturn. Parashara and
> the
> > other enlightened sages drew the line at Saturn because that was
> the
> > beginning of major influences on human karma, not because they
were
> > unaware of other bodies.
>


> Do we have evidence they were aware of other heavenly bodies? It
> seems a bit "convenient" they drew the line just before objects
> become invisible to the naked eye.
>


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One of the sutras of Patanjali (also a major writer in Jyotish) is
based on the pole-star, so certainly they were aware of other
heavenly bodies. The enlightened sages who expounded Jyotish would
certainly have been capable of travel throughout the universe, or
other universes, for that matter.



> Given that any field will radiate outwards losing power to the
> inverse square of the distance travelled (or something), my karma
> reflecting from a bus passing by on the road would have a much
more
> massive effect on my life than Jupiter ever could, does karma obey
> different laws?


****************

I'm just guessing that although there is karmic return from all
objects in the universe (and certainly you would get a quick
reaction from your immediate environs), the planets act as
consolidators of karma returning from far away, and are therefore
important indicators in one's chart of what's returning to you in
this lifetime.

On a dry day, if you run a comb through your hair, then swing it in
an arc, a wave of energy will hit the moon in less than two seconds,
and then be propagated throughout the universe. We are similarly
sending out a wave of influence that returns to us from all parts of
the universe, but I guess that karma is not the same type of wave as
EM waves. So the question of strength is not one I could answer
except to say that I definitely see accurate Jyotish charts
regardless of the details of karmic propagation.


>
>   but because the universe is not
> > structured for suffering, but for the expansion of happiness,
and
> > therefore yagyas are available to lessen unhappy impacts on
one's
> > life due to returning bad karma.
>


> I can't see how the universe is structured for fulfilling any
human
> concepts at all but my question would be, how does a yagya find
it's
> way to the recipient?

When you request a yagya from Maharishi Yagya pundits, you give your
name and the sankalpa (desire) addressed in the yagya is directed
toward you:

http://tinyurl.com/zryrh


>There are six billion+ people on earth, is a
> few minutes of chanting in India really going to effect my life? I
> doubt it, which is why I've never known anyone get anything out of
> yagyas, exvept a bit of a placebo effect of course but certainly
not
> what they paid all that money for.
>
> And lastly, has anyone ever published a controlled study of yagyas
> and their effects? Were the results better than a placebo?
>

Controlled studies  of Jyotish and yagyas could be done -- somebody
will probably do some in a few years.






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