--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bob_brigante <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <sparaig@> wrote:
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <jstein@> wrote:
> > >
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <vajranatha@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On May 23, 2006, at 7:40 AM, TurquoiseB wrote:
> > > <snip>
> > > > > Not to mention "killing the messenger."
> > > >
> > > > And that "killing of the messenger" in this specific context
> is an 
> > > > artifact of clinging to the "idea" that the vedas and science
> go
> > > > hand-in-hand.
> > >
> > > Or, it's an artifact of being genuinely interested in
> > > the degree of validity of various projects aimed at
> > > integrating or reconciling science and spirituality.
> >
>
>
> > One comment: Maharishi's "Vedic Science" isn't scientific in the
> modern sense of the word,
> > but only in the sense that it is a systematic exploration of
> knowledge. Modern Science
> > requires a certain concensus of practitioners based on
> objective/external observation,
> > whereas Vedic Science is strictly personal and
> subjective/internal. There are overlaps in
> > the field of practice and study  (e.g. TM practice leading to
> lower blood pressure, etc), but
> > they are two distinctly different kinds of "science."
> >
>
>
> *************************
>
> The word science comes the Latin scire, "to know," and consciousness
> is obviously the basis of all knowing. By using the technology of TM
> to expand the ability to know, Vedic science is the basis of all
> science, whether it uses a piece of Western-science machinery or
> uses the machinery of the nervous system and Vedic technology.
>

An interesting point, and perhaps valid, but I was talking about the implication that Vedic
Science was a "science" in the Western, modern sense that Physics, Chemistry, etc., are.

Western Sciences are procedures and strategies used to explore certain aspects of reality
that are divided according to how convenient it is to explore them one way than another
using said procedures and strategies. E.G., Chemistry uses a someone different set than
Physics, but the common link is the ability for scientists to share data and theories with
one another and have colleagues test said data and theories via replication or some
analogous procedure.

While there is an overlap with Vedic Science in that people can use TM to test MMY's
claims, at least partly, the ability to test the claims isn't open to just anyone --they have to
have attained a certain "state of consciousness" to be a Vedic Scientist. That's a different
kind of "training" than Western Science requires.







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